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patrice

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141. wow. The functions of all GA practices and procedures were to enhance horizontal EMPOWERMENT, the

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 02:33 AM

Dec 2012

leadership potentials of ALL persons, newbies and old-timers, equally powerful.

My perception of what is going on around here is that there is way too much tendency to think and say the worst about absolutely everyone except those with whom we agree. EVERYONE is doing this. There are no innocent parties. And too many people regard questions as some sort of assault or insult and refuse to answer them which indicates a strong possibility of defensiveness motivated by an inability to stand to questions and SHOW why you have the position you have.

There are people on here whom I don't respond to, because they are like you say they are, but it's not everyone. All of us should make more effort with those who don't understand us, or even with those who intentionally negate for no reason other than to be negative, because to engage them constructively, even if it does no good for them personally, is good for the general level of discourse here and that includes newbies.

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Democrats with death wishes or trolls? [View all] Vietnameravet Dec 2012 OP

yea, some folks get angry when they think they might be getting sold out or sold up the river quinnox Dec 2012 #1

Some people just hate President Obama. Control-Z Dec 2012 #12

Does criticism equal hatred to you? R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #13

We're not talking about criticism here. Control-Z Dec 2012 #17

You need to link it instead of alluding to it please. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #31

Excuse me? Control-Z Dec 2012 #90

You're excused. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #94

Just read the Board...... FarPoint Dec 2012 #116

Many, many, many posts with nothing to back it up with. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #125

Are you going to link to the thread in question? R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #67

Then search for it. Control-Z Dec 2012 #93

If you are going to accuse others of hatred you should at least link to the thread. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #95

Good try, new-comer. Control-Z Dec 2012 #100

Thanks for everything which turned out to be nothing. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #102

Does hatred equal criticism to you? n/t Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #32

Criticism equals criticism. You can ignore it, listen to it, learn from it R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #37

That's not an answer. Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #39

That is an answer. It is an answer that you do not want, but it is a answer. A logical one. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #44

It's the lack of logic that is so obvious. Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #48

So you demand that others agree with you and use insults when you don't get your way. So what? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #53

It's a big nothing within another nothing. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #58

If you're vying for the "Non Sequitar Award of the Year" Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #77

Project much? n/t Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #87

Here's an idea. Link to the offensive post or relax. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #56

You're the one insisting Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #80

I never wrote that. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #104

Oh, really? Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #106

Have a good night. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #107

It's much more of an answer than you gave to me. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #54

Purity tests ... Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #76

I've asked you a few times to link to the offensive threads. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #78

I have never alerted on anything on DU. Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #83

That's very high minded of you. Very commendable. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #96

Being high-minded has nothing to do with it. Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #101

I have seen a lot of bluster tonight. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #103

I'm not quite sure Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #105

Have a good night. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #108

You, too! n/t Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #111

Thank you. tavalon Dec 2012 #50

"I hold his feet to the fire, as he requested." R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #61

The absolute least tavalon Dec 2012 #92

exactly arely staircase Dec 2012 #140

Victim blaming? RobertEarl Dec 2012 #2

+1000 nt abelenkpe Dec 2012 #25

I did not send money and vote to cut social security and Medicare or Medicaid daa Dec 2012 #3

Wait, let me guess, it was the Emo Progs who stayed home in 2010? Fumesucker Dec 2012 #4

+ 100 quinnox Dec 2012 #6

That's still a great line. Thanks for the laugh. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #45

Moderate Republicans GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #5

But right of center Democrats enable Republicans. RC Dec 2012 #29

I could not disagree more. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #7

yup, it's like the OP is surprised that people are upset over quinnox Dec 2012 #8

Well, doggonit, let's just take out the Dems because I'm sure Skidmore Dec 2012 #14

Let's take our Democrats to the woodshed when they follow Wall Street amandabeech Dec 2012 #38

Even the Republican Presidents from Nixon through Bush-43 didn't offer to cut SS. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #46

I just don't understand how people here and among the Democratic members of Congress amandabeech Dec 2012 #110

My Congressman is a progressive Democrat. I support him wholeheartedly. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #59

+1 Liberalynn Dec 2012 #9

DU can be LWolf Dec 2012 #10

+1 L0oniX Dec 2012 #16

Is Pelosi lying? R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #11

Is she a politician? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #57

She is lying. Remember how she gave in to Henry Paulson when he begged for JDPriestly Dec 2012 #60

Paulson also threatened martial law if the House didn't vote for the bank bail outs BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #114

The fact that any Dem is even talking about anything to do with SS, Medicare and Medicaid... L0oniX Dec 2012 #15

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #19

LMAO n/t L0oniX Dec 2012 #21

You're obviously using the wrong insult. When someone has been here for a while, you're supposed to AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #49

Let's see. A trollfinder with 1,000 some posts and a "troll" with over 15,000 posts. Hmmmm! JDPriestly Dec 2012 #62

I'm sneeky aren't I. L0oniX Dec 2012 #70

thank you for speaking up and calling the trolls and the false Democrats in this forum. MindandSoul Dec 2012 #18

I have not trashed Obama over these negotiations Skittles Dec 2012 #20

Well... the reason why you heard little criticism of Obama's policies is because Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #22

+ 1000 quinnox Dec 2012 #41

Going off the cliff means we go back to laws that were policy for years and did us well. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #65

I agree. Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #84

+1000000000 L0oniX Dec 2012 #71

they have to earn our vote liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #23

+ 1000 quinnox Dec 2012 #42

The squeaky wheel gets the grease. If we don't squeak, everything must be okay. RickFromMN Dec 2012 #24

Thanks, vet. elleng Dec 2012 #26

Yes. People should *politely* point out Obama is dead wrong on SS. DirkGently Dec 2012 #27

k&r. op draws a nice distinction between constructive criticism and cynical anti-obama-ism. unblock Dec 2012 #28

Next we will hear Ed from his namesake show telling us not to vote. sellitman Dec 2012 #30

I agree with this post. Neon2012 Dec 2012 #33

Yes, we must wait until AFTER it's signed into law Oilwellian Dec 2012 #63

And complaining about it on DU Neon2012 Dec 2012 #73

I Offer Constructive Criticism of the President triplepoint Dec 2012 #34

Criticism? oh, yes. Constructive? er...no. NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #69

oh good grief, another "I'll decide when and over what BHO can be criticized!" stupidicus Dec 2012 #35

He's an SOB. But at least he's OUR SOB The Green Manalishi Dec 2012 #36

Nope, just democrats who like to practice what we preach.. iamthebandfanman Dec 2012 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #43

Well, if Obama's actions show that he's in favor of that, I guess we will have to be so as well. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #51

Oh, ffs. Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #47

Welcome to DU. On this website, we do not all have to agree with the president all the time. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #52

It's nice. The new people feel right at home and are comfortable to not hold back HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #55

Yes. It is good that new people feel welcome. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #72

I'm not sure where this is coming from. Well that's not exactly true. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #91

Yes. It doesn't make sense to walk into the room, stay 15 minutes and then start telling everyone JDPriestly Dec 2012 #109

I have called a couple of posters on this and they went cold. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #112

You know, I'd credit that if I hadn't just recently seen the exact reciprocal of it coming from patrice Dec 2012 #128

Why is newness necessarily a subterfuge? Are you claiming power privilege based on seniority? patrice Dec 2012 #129

I do not agree with other posters from time to time, but I have only tried to report someone JDPriestly Dec 2012 #137

In Occupy GAs, newer speakers were placed to the front of the speaking cue; WHY do you suppose they patrice Dec 2012 #130

To include them and make them feel welcome, not to encourage them to JDPriestly Dec 2012 #138

wow. The functions of all GA practices and procedures were to enhance horizontal EMPOWERMENT, the patrice Dec 2012 #141

Isn't one of the things we are fighting the privileges accrued to seniority?nt patrice Dec 2012 #131

No. What an absurd idea. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #139

Well said. NCarolinawoman Dec 2012 #122

Correct me if I am wrong, but I seem to recall this President saying BlueStreak Dec 2012 #64

I disagree with the President on many issues One of the 99 Dec 2012 #66

This lie is getting really tired Doctor_J Dec 2012 #68

Excellent! L0oniX Dec 2012 #75

Yes. Thank you. djean111 Dec 2012 #118

I am a real fan of the President. That being said arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #119

Despair trolls. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #74

Bullshit. The details of what the chained CPI will do have been out for weeks. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #79

"Hold my feet to the fire" lunasun Dec 2012 #81

Oh MY GOSH! This is about me... Lionessa Dec 2012 #82

+1 L0oniX Dec 2012 #89

Sad photo. Sad. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #99

Some of us wouldn't have a problem if THIS was a/the priority, but that's not what is patrice Dec 2012 #127

BS Control-Z Dec 2012 #97

Plus ten to the power. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #98

well said! liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #113

It's not about hatred. It's about what likely works v. what likely does NOT & THAT has to do with patrice Dec 2012 #132

Some of them have been real outta' pocket with their criticism. CheapShotArtist Dec 2012 #85

Trolls. NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #86

Another Hit and Run? Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #88

Thanks for this Vietnameravet. It's not the criticism, it's the vile HATRED Hekate Dec 2012 #115

+1 freshwest Dec 2012 #135

The voting choice America had this last election was Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #117

Fart noises. Solly Mack Dec 2012 #120

diahrrea datasuspect Dec 2012 #134

... Solly Mack Dec 2012 #136

Does the President deserve any criticism? kentuck Dec 2012 #121

A few trolls. A lot of fed up Democrats. Autumn Dec 2012 #123

The progressives who get upset when Obama is being....well progressive... are the trolls, but those Puregonzo1188 Dec 2012 #124

All of the facts don't matter, ONLY feelings, therefore, all "truths" are equally true & what you patrice Dec 2012 #126

It is the responsiblity of the citizens of a democracy to hold public servants accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #133

You got haters and then you got critics. Rex Dec 2012 #142

Interesting response Vietnameravet Jan 2013 #143