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paleotn

(21,694 posts)
15. Not directly, but it still ain't good for any of us.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:29 PM
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It's a bit unintuitive, but generally yields (interest rates) on debt rise and fall inversely to demand. Dumping creates an oversupply of US Treasury debt for sale in the market. Like any oversupply situation, the price buyers are willing to pay for that debt drops since there's so much of it for sale. The unintuitive part is... actual interest rate on that debt increase....

....If I can buy a $100 treasury note paying 5% interest for say $80 because there's an oversupply in the market from dumping, I'm still getting a $5 check from the Treasury as interest payment ...$100 X 5%...no matter what I actually paid for the note. But I only paid $80 for it, so really I'm getting 6.25% instead of the 5% face rate. $5 divided by the $80 I paid. That's the actual market yield.

If you're not trading government debt, that might not mean much. But here's the rub. Those market yields on US debt are tied to interest rates on consumer loans. Yields on 5 and 10 year US notes are usually the benchmark banks and other lenders use to rate car loans, mortgages, student loans, etc. If US debt yields rise, so does the interest on a new car loan. Or a new house.

In short, Donnie shouldn't worry about Jerome Powell and the Fed right now. He's single handedly jacked up interest rates for every American. Good job, Donnie, you fucking idiot!

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So it begins... Aristus Tuesday #1
Never ask for whom the bells tolls.... NotHardly Tuesday #9
Yes. Literature reacquaints readers with reality. But the felon obviously doesn't read. ancianita Tuesday #13
I can think of one clod I wish would be washed away by the sea. raccoon Yesterday #34
This may be what it takes Mme. Defarge Tuesday #2
I really hope that after listening to some of the leader's speeches at Davos, Bev54 Tuesday #10
The finacial world expressing to Trump Johonny Tuesday #3
$100 million is a pittance. It was the warning Melon Tuesday #4
Like... if China joined the dumping club! nt slightlv Tuesday #7
Actually, I thought that I saw someplace that China was already dumping treasuries. h2ebits Tuesday #31
Not dumping at all. Countries ebb and flow Melon 23 hrs ago #37
Thanks for the correction. That must have been what I saw and remembered inaccurately. h2ebits 23 hrs ago #38
Do we want to f around and find out what happens when the warning is ignored? IronLionZion Tuesday #29
That would add to The National Debt, right? no_hypocrisy Tuesday #5
That is the national debt, funded by selling US treasury bonds. Bev54 Tuesday #12
Not directly, but it still ain't good for any of us. paleotn Tuesday #15
It makes our national debt more expensive because Treasury has to pay higher yields IronLionZion Tuesday #30
We're barely able to pay INTEREST on the Debt right now. no_hypocrisy Yesterday #35
This is just the beginning of the end for the good faith and credit of the US that the felon has killed. ancianita Tuesday #6
Supposedly that's what got him to back off the tariffs last April IronLionZion Tuesday #8
heh heh...probably... Wondering if you have a link to Orrex? ancianita Tuesday #11
Every day here on DU IronLionZion Tuesday #22
Ah, yes! Thanks. ancianita Tuesday #23
If Denmark, Germany and France stop exporting insulin were screwed. 33taw Tuesday #14
But...but...but....I didn't think we were reliant on Europe for anything!!! paleotn Tuesday #17
You'd be surprised. Aussie105 Tuesday #25
Not true SCantiGOP Tuesday #21
You may be correct, but that is not what I am finding. Yes,Eli Lilly is a US company. 33taw Yesterday #32
Reuters link DoBW Tuesday #16
It will force the Federal Reserve to engage in significant QE at the long end of the yield curve. roamer65 Tuesday #18
The bigger the depression... purr-rat beauty Tuesday #19
Central banks are buying metals. Not a good sign for the US economy. DJ Synikus Makisimus Tuesday #20
I think Japan surpassed China BaronChocula Yesterday #33
Quite a lot of trade happens. Aussie105 Tuesday #24
Yes. Yes, he's an idiot. Wharton must be so proud. Buddyzbuddy Tuesday #26
Gonna be a whomping big distraction from Jack Smith's little chat to the public. Attilatheblond Tuesday #27
$100M is meaningless other than symbolism Bluetus Tuesday #28
If that becomes an avalanche, we are SCREWED Martin Eden Yesterday #36
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