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In reply to the discussion: Jeffries Won't Whip Vote Against ICE Funding [View all]crimycarny
(2,044 posts)106. But I don't think you improve your chances of winning control of congress by not fighting such an important issue
This is just my opinion, but I think Jeffries and some of the other hesitant Dems are miscalculating how many are enraged by what ICE is doing, including Independents and some on the right. They aren't reading the room.
Especially with the ICE whistleblower leaked a memo where ICE is telling their agents to break into homes without a warrant. People on all ends of the political spectrum are enraged.
This is exactly the political miscalculation that helped the Nazi Party gain power. There is a great documentary, "The Rise of the Nazi Party," and it parallels the same sort of hesitancy by the majority party (at the time) to take strong action against the atrocities the Nazi brownshirts were engaging in. They lost their majority.
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Maybe it is time to pass the mantle to someone Who Is Strong. I want someone strong like Iron Man.
Trueblue1968
20 hrs ago
#121
Jeffries needs to hear from the nationwide Democratic rank-and-file voters---- like us!
Jack Valentino
17 hrs ago
#148
Jeffries has publicly announced that he will vote against ICE funding--- not a small thing,
Jack Valentino
17 hrs ago
#152
So those attacking Jeffries a few weeks ago for not wanting to cut ICE funding were full of shit.
W_HAMILTON
Yesterday
#4
And the ones attacking good Democrats are usually those who are in a place of privilege and won't get hurt regardless.
W_HAMILTON
23 hrs ago
#19
The people who think Jeffries isn't good enough, Pelosi wasn't good enough...
W_HAMILTON
18 hrs ago
#133
For anyone that thinks they weren't good enough, I don't want to hear a goddamn word about the hell we find ourselves in
W_HAMILTON
3 hrs ago
#179
You think voting for the Democrat and the only person that could have stopped all this from happening is a purity test?
W_HAMILTON
3 hrs ago
#184
I supported Pelosi, Hillary, Biden and Kamala. And my mind is open about Newsom.
Scrivener7
5 hrs ago
#172
What a bizarro world. Jeffries is almost always in lockstep with the vast majority of Democratic reps.
W_HAMILTON
3 hrs ago
#180
Yes, Pelosi was accused of personally preventing an impeachment vote because of devious personal reasons.
betsuni
18 hrs ago
#143
I forgot the constant hysteria that 10,000-year-old Pelosi was clinging to power, would never ever never retire
betsuni
14 hrs ago
#161
Stand up for them before it gets to the point where standing up for them does nothing.
W_HAMILTON
18 hrs ago
#140
Yeah, and those """good people""" failed to act when they let Trump seize power....
W_HAMILTON
18 hrs ago
#146
Your pique about the past is blinding you to the urgency of the present. No one here voted for trump.
Scrivener7
5 hrs ago
#174
And everyone here votes for the Democrats. But for some reason you insist on acting
Scrivener7
2 hrs ago
#185
And if people had supported good Democrats instead of nitpicking them from office, we wouldn't have that problem.
W_HAMILTON
18 hrs ago
#137
Fuck that. A Democrat """not acting""" is still better than the best Republican.
W_HAMILTON
18 hrs ago
#141
No, because I don't buy into the conspiracy that Democraric leadership fucking wants ICE ravaging our streets.
W_HAMILTON
18 hrs ago
#145
Dear Jury: this guys' name is "you sound vaccinated." His schtick is - I think, because it' sounds pretty meth addled -
Scrivener7
Yesterday
#11
Jesus. It's because "they're terrified of being labeled anti law enforcement." While a rogue militia
Scrivener7
Yesterday
#8
I advise to have ZERO expectations if he becomes speaker. More foot dragging
Bread and Circuses
23 hrs ago
#38
While I'd much prefer they be more forceful I understand the hesitation
EdmondDantes_
23 hrs ago
#17
But I don't think you improve your chances of winning control of congress by not fighting such an important issue
crimycarny
21 hrs ago
#106
I don't think for those in Minnesota see a yes vote for the ICE funding as irrelevant
crimycarny
16 hrs ago
#157
I know that we are all experts & understand politics & Congress more than him, but what if...
themaguffin
23 hrs ago
#40
Not every strategy is an action in the moment. Look, I would love for them to...
themaguffin
7 hrs ago
#165
I think all of us can look at the results of his continuous selection of the weakest possible response to a given
Scrivener7
6 hrs ago
#171
Again, they to do whatever is that they actually can do. I'm referring to more than words
themaguffin
5 hrs ago
#173
What does it hurt if we stand united for the obvious right and moral thing, even if we don't win?
Scrivener7
5 hrs ago
#175
"Presidents come presidents go. And through it all God is still on his throne"
Autumn
7 hrs ago
#166
It only "proves" to them their "rightness" of their cause, and the gullibility of others.
usonian
18 hrs ago
#135
"They're terrified of being labeled anti-law enforcement," rather than doing the right thing
Mr. Sparkle
21 hrs ago
#88
He is afraid to whip votes against the DHS funding bill because it would look like dems are anti-ICE.
mysteryowl
21 hrs ago
#105
Oh heck, the headline doesn't get me worked up in a frothy hate at Democrats -- not sure why I should despise Jeffries.
betsuni
19 hrs ago
#132
Sorry, I'm Through with Him and All the Rest of the D Leadership
The Roux Comes First
17 hrs ago
#151