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In reply to the discussion: Jeffries Won't Whip Vote Against ICE Funding [View all]crimycarny
(2,039 posts)154. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree
And time will tell. It just seems the Dems often worry too much about how the GOP will "frame" what they do, and the GOP always wins the messaging war regardless. If the Dems vote for the funding, the GOP will claim it's proof they agree with what ICE is doing. If the Dems vote against the funding bill, the GOP will try to use 'defund the police'.
If enough Dems plan to vote with the GOP to approve the funding, then come up with some talking points ahead of time that explain why and keep hammering those talking points. The GOP does this all the time. Instead, the Dems will rail against something, only to turn around and vote with the GOP. The GOP doesn't have to do anything; the Dems do it to themselves with crappy messaging.
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Maybe it is time to pass the mantle to someone Who Is Strong. I want someone strong like Iron Man.
Trueblue1968
12 hrs ago
#121
Jeffries needs to hear from the nationwide Democratic rank-and-file voters---- like us!
Jack Valentino
9 hrs ago
#148
Jeffries has publicly announced that he will vote against ICE funding--- not a small thing,
Jack Valentino
9 hrs ago
#152
So those attacking Jeffries a few weeks ago for not wanting to cut ICE funding were full of shit.
W_HAMILTON
16 hrs ago
#4
And the ones attacking good Democrats are usually those who are in a place of privilege and won't get hurt regardless.
W_HAMILTON
15 hrs ago
#19
The people who think Jeffries isn't good enough, Pelosi wasn't good enough...
W_HAMILTON
10 hrs ago
#133
Yes, Pelosi was accused of personally preventing an impeachment vote because of devious personal reasons.
betsuni
10 hrs ago
#143
I forgot the constant hysteria that 10,000-year-old Pelosi was clinging to power, would never ever never retire
betsuni
6 hrs ago
#161
Stand up for them before it gets to the point where standing up for them does nothing.
W_HAMILTON
10 hrs ago
#140
Yeah, and those """good people""" failed to act when they let Trump seize power....
W_HAMILTON
10 hrs ago
#146
And if people had supported good Democrats instead of nitpicking them from office, we wouldn't have that problem.
W_HAMILTON
10 hrs ago
#137
Fuck that. A Democrat """not acting""" is still better than the best Republican.
W_HAMILTON
10 hrs ago
#141
No, because I don't buy into the conspiracy that Democraric leadership fucking wants ICE ravaging our streets.
W_HAMILTON
10 hrs ago
#145
Dear Jury: this guys' name is "you sound vaccinated." His schtick is - I think, because it' sounds pretty meth addled -
Scrivener7
16 hrs ago
#11
Jesus. It's because "they're terrified of being labeled anti law enforcement." While a rogue militia
Scrivener7
16 hrs ago
#8
I advise to have ZERO expectations if he becomes speaker. More foot dragging
Bread and Circuses
15 hrs ago
#38
While I'd much prefer they be more forceful I understand the hesitation
EdmondDantes_
15 hrs ago
#17
But I don't think you improve your chances of winning control of congress by not fighting such an important issue
crimycarny
13 hrs ago
#106
I don't think for those in Minnesota see a yes vote for the ICE funding as irrelevant
crimycarny
8 hrs ago
#157
I know that we are all experts & understand politics & Congress more than him, but what if...
themaguffin
15 hrs ago
#40
It only "proves" to them their "rightness" of their cause, and the gullibility of others.
usonian
10 hrs ago
#135
"They're terrified of being labeled anti-law enforcement," rather than doing the right thing
Mr. Sparkle
13 hrs ago
#88
He is afraid to whip votes against the DHS funding bill because it would look like dems are anti-ICE.
mysteryowl
13 hrs ago
#105
Oh heck, the headline doesn't get me worked up in a frothy hate at Democrats -- not sure why I should despise Jeffries.
betsuni
10 hrs ago
#132
Sorry, I'm Through with Him and All the Rest of the D Leadership
The Roux Comes First
9 hrs ago
#151