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54. brilliant. Notice how this writer is talking to Democrats like they're a stranger to the party?
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 01:26 AM
12 hrs ago

Oh, no, on edit I see that it's that troll fuck Norman Solomon who was just attacking Joe Biden last April, writing:

"Demo­crats’ defer­ence to Biden was a dis­aster. They still haven’t learned their les­son"

Thing is, this troll writer, nor any of us actually vote for who is leader of the respective Democratic memberships - the members do.

Any gripe they have with the leaders THEY chose needs to be addressed to THEM because, these two evidently represent THEIR collective views and intentions in their respective houses.

What a farce pretending critics have a say in who the Dem leaders are. Moreover, I'll bet they don't even know who to call to urge them to organize such a farce.

Or, more importantly, WHO is stepping up to take up that traditionally scapegoated role?

This pretense that there's some internecine fight, or even more misleading, that the members who've ALREADY fought republicans and WON to be where they are would do something as stupid as dismantle their own leadership like several hounded Biden into doing, for instance, in the last election.

That ratfucking worked out just dandy, right?

Why does anyone in the party still listen to these people who can only think of tearing something down; oblivious to the need right now to build the the party and gain the majority.

Addition, not subtraction.

I mean, blaming the two for some fault in the party, two successful leaders (when people bother to vote them in a majority) who are decidedly more progressive than their collective membership, is just avoidance of the realities they both face in organizing a toothless minority that these very same critics evidently didn't bother to support the last time around.

What the two produce is what their caucus will support. They're not dictators, and no one should expect the Democrat they send there to be dictated down to by anyone. It's absurd, and a canard.

Support Democrats and win the majority. It's not as hard as trolls like this Salon writer pretend. Does anyone notice that the polls greatly favor Democrats, so what the fuck is this person talking about? We've been winning almost every race that emerges, and the polls for republicans are wildly swinging the opposite way from their last contests.

The shit that people allow themselves to get gaslighted by is really something.

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Post removed Post removed Tuesday #1
Moving faster is certainly in order and with 2026 upon us already, same old same old not helpful. dutch777 Tuesday #2
Dem House and Senate leadership operate like they have Ars Longa Tuesday #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Ars Longa Tuesday #15
In before the swarm. Scrivener7 Tuesday #3
Me too Bettie Yesterday #24
Don't worry, they won't BeyondGeography Tuesday #4
"No," said Gallego. "And I've been very clear. He is a madman. He is insane. He's only thinking about himself." ratchiweenie Tuesday #5
To put it mildly, they are not the right leaders for the moment. n/t demmiblue Tuesday #6
Disagree JustAnotherGen Tuesday #7
It doesn't put the blame on the Democrats. It puts the hope for a solution on Democrats. Scrivener7 Yesterday #23
What we need is to stop fighting ourselves oiut loud. bluestarone Tuesday #8
I don't think we are fighting ourselves out loud so much as leadership is fighting us. Autumn Tuesday #21
No, they aren't creeksneakers2 22 hrs ago #37
Yeah they are. Your opinion and view is vastly different than what I see. Have a nice day. Autumn 4 hrs ago #58
But you can't refute what I said. creeksneakers2 27 min ago #60
"It is easier to find people fit to govern themselves than people fit to govern others". Lord Acton Ping Tung Tuesday #9
Meh. We need leaders who are studious and prayerful and who prefer to make speeches to an empty chamber dalton99a Tuesday #10
Scary thought that must be weighed. Kid Berwyn Tuesday #11
I guess at least he's moved on from saying the problem is Democratic women aren't hot EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #12
Chuck's had 10 years to prove his theory. FAIL leftstreet Tuesday #13
"But We Will Win Because Victory Will Come To Us In Due Time" dalton99a Tuesday #16
To put it bluntly... hamsterjill Tuesday #17
What specifically do you want them to do? creeksneakers2 22 hrs ago #38
Pick an issue mr715 19 hrs ago #46
Being done. creeksneakers2 13 hrs ago #49
Why are you asking me? hamsterjill 19 hrs ago #47
The question is designed to show the flaw in reasoning. creeksneakers2 13 hrs ago #50
That's absurd. hamsterjill 6 hrs ago #57
Bogus excuse creeksneakers2 29 min ago #59
Bernie usonian Tuesday #18
I don't know why people here mock strongly worded letters. Politicians communicate this way. Thanks, Bernie! betsuni Tuesday #20
And we need him to fight as much before the election as he seems to after it! W_HAMILTON Yesterday #36
Behold: betsuni 22 hrs ago #43
I amend my comment: "we need him to fight REPUBLICANS as much before the election.." W_HAMILTON 20 hrs ago #44
Post removed Post removed 12 hrs ago #55
More anti-Democratic Boo1 Tuesday #19
Democratic Party leaders seem to be keeping their powder dry. Autumn Tuesday #22
They've been keeping it dry and hoarding it Bettie Yesterday #25
We, the voters, gave them no powder to keep dry. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #33
yup, Salon, Democracy Now, Ralph Nader, Jill Stein, etc.all worked overtime to bring us where we are today. lostincalifornia Yesterday #26
Yeah, it's all their fault Mysterian 22 hrs ago #40
In every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while Jill Stein received lostincalifornia 22 hrs ago #41
Amen comradebillyboy Yesterday #27
Establishment Democratic leadership LuvLoogie Yesterday #28
Nope creeksneakers2 22 hrs ago #39
Agree, 100%. New Democratic leadership is needed, immediately. Paladin Yesterday #29
That's not going to happen, so now what? themaguffin Yesterday #30
Except we've been winning. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #31
Yes, we're winning. The author can't be bothered with facts or polling on the midterms. emulatorloo Yesterday #34
I agree LetMyPeopleVote 12 hrs ago #51
You really think the average voter gives a shit about Schumer and Jeffries or even know's their names? emulatorloo Yesterday #32
Most voters don't watch news all day SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #45
Did Normal Solomon ever write an autopsy on his failed congressional campaign in a solid blue district? Quiet Em Yesterday #35
That is because Ocasio-Cortez and Crocker don't go attacking Democrats and lostincalifornia 22 hrs ago #42
I am also curious about this LetMyPeopleVote 12 hrs ago #52
Oh, did I miss the wailing and rending of garments? MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #48
Strongly worded headlines rile up the pseudo-revolutionaries fighting alongside radical right-wingers against Democrats, betsuni 11 hrs ago #56
I'd rather we Chuck people like Norman Solomon. johnp3907 12 hrs ago #53
brilliant. Notice how this writer is talking to Democrats like they're a stranger to the party? bigtree 12 hrs ago #54
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