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HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:44 AM Dec 2012

3 months in jail and counting but accused of no crime [View all]

The visiting room of the SeaTac Federal Detention Center is bleak. Prison is supposed to be bleak, but it's difficult to appreciate how bleak it is until you've walked inside...Amid all the bleakness, inmate Katherine Olejnik seems surprisingly smiley and optimistic. She is one of two inmates I've come to visit—the other is Matt Duran—who have been sitting in this prison for around three months. (Duran a few days more than that, Olejnik a few days less.)

They haven't been accused of a crime. They haven't even been arrested for a crime. They're here because they refused to answer questions for a federal prosecutor, in front of a grand jury, about people they may (or may not) know: who those people are, who those people hang out with, and what political opinions those people hold.

Supposedly, that federal prosecutor is interested in the smashup in Seattle on May Day and finding the demonstrators who broke the windows of a federal courthouse. But Olejnik says the prosecutor only asked her four questions about May Day, which she answered truthfully: Was she in Seattle on May Day? (No.) Where was she? (Working at her waitress/bartending job in Olympia.) Had she been in Seattle a week before or a week after May Day? (No.) Had anybody talked to her about May Day? (No. In fact, she says she learned most of what she knows about the smashup while she was in court.)

That was all he asked about the May Day vandalism. Then, she says, the prosecutor began rattling off names and showing photographs of people, asking about their social contacts and political opinions. Olejnik guesses he asked "at least 50 questions" in that vein, compared to the four about May Day. That's when she shut down, refused to answer, was found in contempt of court, and was sent to SeaTac FDC.

She doesn't regret it. "I truly believe that people have the right to believe whatever they want politically," Olejnik says, sitting in a chair beside me in her prison khakis. "And it's none of the government's business." As far as she can tell, she's not in prison because she couldn't help with a vandalism investigation. She's there because she refused, on principle, to help the federal government draw a social map of radicals and leftists in the Northwest...

More to the point, they haven't actually been charged with anything, and they have no idea how long they'll be there. Technically, they can leave whenever they decide to cooperate with the federal prosecutor, but both say they're firmly resolved against that...

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/christmas-in-prison/Content?oid=15565849

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K&R'd. snot Dec 2012 #1
As a human being, I don't understand. MrYikes Dec 2012 #2
More proof we're a fascist state. knitter4democracy Dec 2012 #3
Fascism has been around for a while now. It was fully bloomed under plethoro Dec 2012 #6
Oh, I know. Still infuriates me, though. knitter4democracy Dec 2012 #40
You're a good teacher, ma'am. I consider this as important plethoro Dec 2012 #41
I teach English and Spanish. knitter4democracy Dec 2012 #43
to say she wasnt accused of a crime is not exactly true rdking647 Dec 2012 #4
no such thing as the Fifth. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #5
perhaps the fifth only works for corporate types dembotoz Dec 2012 #7
Tell that to Reek Scott. secondvariety Dec 2012 #10
I can't, I took the Fifth. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #12
The Fifth Amendment applies to self-incrimination skepticscott Dec 2012 #19
ergo, to jail they go. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #20
The 5th can't protect you against incriminating others JimDandy Dec 2012 #22
one more reply to this post and I will have a Fifth. anyone? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #24
LOL JimDandy Dec 2012 #28
If somebody alerts this post ThoughtCriminal Dec 2012 #29
The Fifth applies to testiying against *yourself* cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #34
At which time, they can convene a new Grand Jury CanonRay Dec 2012 #11
You are right what is being done to them is 100% LEGAL.. SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #37
Tiny bit of more info from Seattle Times panzerfaust Dec 2012 #8
The powers that be will ot relinquish it's power voluntarily! We have to fight to get it back! Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #9
McCarthyism thrives. nt valerief Dec 2012 #13
Yessirree bob, no political crimes in the ol' USA! And no political prisoners - only tresspassers... marble falls Dec 2012 #14
Would "I don't know for certain" be considered contempt? Patiod Dec 2012 #15
it probably would rdking647 Dec 2012 #16
It wasn't for Reagan... skepticscott Dec 2012 #25
Contempt of court isn't novel or new. nt Romulox Dec 2012 #17
These are two brave people who decided dotymed Dec 2012 #18
I don't remember you defending Judith Miller when she was held in Contempt of Court...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #21
Maybe because Judith Miller's lies actually hurt a shitload of people. n/t Downtown Hound Dec 2012 #31
Hey, all poor Judith Miller did SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #38
Hey. You're still here.. SidDithers Dec 2012 #42
k & r! wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #23
This is NDAA Indef Detention at work? n/t fredamae Dec 2012 #26
No, this is standard contempt of court at work (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #32
Incarcerating people who had NOTHING to due with the vandalism that occurred Downtown Hound Dec 2012 #33
Jesus Christ people are thin-skinned around here Recursion Dec 2012 #35
Then don't call it "standard," because it isn't. n/t Downtown Hound Dec 2012 #36
When dealing with the feds, the Constitution does not protect you, there is no due process. MindPilot Dec 2012 #27
All of this over a few broken windows that were replaced within hours Downtown Hound Dec 2012 #30
K&R Thanks for the follow up, as always. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #39
I wonder why the don't do that to people like Karl Rove Rex Dec 2012 #44
we all know why. the same reason hitler could kill millions without any consequences (until he HiPointDem Dec 2012 #45
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