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65. why is he attacking the Europeans?
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:35 AM
17 hrs ago

...they didn't put Trump in power and they have no way of removing him.

Their countryfolk set their priorities, not the governor of California.

Why didn't he bother to supprt any of the pushback we all saw from those same leaders he's claiming should be more effective at their opposition?

BERLIN (AP) — The eight European countries targeted by U.S. President Donald Trump for a 10% tariff for opposing American control of Greenland blasted the move Sunday, warning that his threats "undermine transatlantic relations and risk a dangerous downward spiral."

The joint statement by some of America's closest allies signaled a possible turning point in the recent tensions over sovereignty and security nearly 24 hours after Trump's threat.

It was also the most forceful rebuke of Trump from the European allies since he returned to the White House almost a year ago.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/european-leaders-warn-of-downward-spiral-as-trump-threatens-tariffs-over-greenland

...projecting insults is seldom as effective as doing the work of diplomacy, which Newsom looks to have sidestepped to launch this typical American top-down broadside at people we expect to be allies.

Why couldn't he just continue his appeals in private instead of blowing up at a diplomatic event because they're practicing diplomacy? It looked absurd.

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Yeah he needs to be more weak and ineffectual like Merrick Garland. BannonsLiver Tuesday #1
Yup, par for the course LR3 Tuesday #3
Um, no Dave says Wednesday #50
You are absolutely right. sheshe2 Tuesday #2
Appeasement didn't work out too well for Europe in the 1930's newdeal2 Tuesday #4
I was disturbed when I heard him earlier today. brer cat Tuesday #5
He didn't "blow up" MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #6
So he didn't say... TheProle Tuesday #12
Newsom is right Skittles Tuesday #15
That wasn't my question to the previous poster, but noted. TheProle Tuesday #16
He was addressing the press. MorbidButterflyTat 7 hrs ago #94
Mark Carney appears to be the only leader who truly gets it peggysue2 16 hrs ago #68
Right on time. Kingofalldems Tuesday #33
What do you mean? MorbidButterflyTat 7 hrs ago #93
+ 1. If I were casting a remake of The Darkest Hour starring DUers I know who would be playing Lord Halifax. BannonsLiver Tuesday #13
Thanks for the video IcyPeas Tuesday #20
You're welcome, and I agree with you. MorbidButterflyTat 7 hrs ago #95
i'm a considered writer, not a kneejerk poster, and I always make the effort to be clear bigtree Tuesday #23
European parliaments have frank discussion, at cachukis Tuesday #28
Nothing personal MorbidButterflyTat 7 hrs ago #96
He did not creon Wednesday #53
If he is planning to Greg_In_SF Tuesday #7
Right....because the other party is Bettie 13 hrs ago #72
You're right Greg_In_SF 9 hrs ago #85
There is nothing remotely MAGAt about Gavin Newsom MorbidButterflyTat 7 hrs ago #97
Non-ugly American Starbeach Tuesday #8
not even wrong creon Tuesday #9
THANK YOU Skittles Tuesday #18
We are always in transition. Trump has spoiled the cachukis Tuesday #10
Agree IcyPeas Tuesday #22
DURec leftstreet Tuesday #11
Sorry he's absolutely right fujiyamasan Tuesday #14
I would say he is right. It's a fucking embarassment from all corners. Not excusing any US politician. boston bean Tuesday #17
Totally agree with you. nt Raine Tuesday #19
Newsom is right. And Europe consistently looks weak. Renew Deal Tuesday #21
Europe looks weak because they're dealing with internal issues haele Tuesday #30
What do you mean by TimeToGo Tuesday #35
Sorry, typing on my phone, will correct the stupid haele Tuesday #36
😎 We've all been there TimeToGo Tuesday #40
I couldn't agree more Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #24
He's right though. GoodRaisin Tuesday #25
Maybe. I think that they get it. themaguffin Tuesday #26
I'm on Newsom's side here. The entire world needs to be more vocal in their stances against Trump. LonePirate Tuesday #27
Hell no. TIME TO KICK SOME ASS. Irish_Dem Tuesday #29
"Nice guys finish last." Leo Durocher anciano Tuesday #31
..in bed. Qutzupalotl Wednesday #58
I voted for him for governor but I'd rather have someone else as President kimbutgar Tuesday #32
I support Newsom's remarks and attitude 100%.. Escape Tuesday #34
Wondering what European leaders think of America voters. Emile Tuesday #37
I find nothing wrong with what he said. nt Chalco Tuesday #38
Newsom is right about the complicity of the world's superrich. He's doing his part. I don't see any other Democratic ancianita Tuesday #39
how is this fellow the 'Democratic cause? ' bigtree Wednesday #46
Thanks for your usual thoughtful post. Much appreciated. I want to point out that he is frustrated, because ancianita Wednesday #48
Nothing worse than mealy mouthed apologists & critics of courage NotHardly Tuesday #41
Not a good look for Newsom. OGBuzz Tuesday #42
Hmmm GusBob Wednesday #43
Would giving specifics be viewed as treason? n/t BadgerKid Wednesday #44
Meh, when you lead an economy as large as California's, you get to say certain things JonAndKatePlusABird Wednesday #45
I doubt they cared at this point beyond bemusement bigtree Wednesday #47
Sorry, I'm sick and tired of meek capitulation. Arthur_Frain Wednesday #49
Well, The High Road markodochartaigh Wednesday #51
our votes for Obama kept the Democrats in control of the WH for EIGHT YEARS bigtree 18 hrs ago #62
Yes--I felt it was a bit over the top with the "knee pads" and "pathetic" being thrown around crimycarny Wednesday #52
Newsom was right on substance but still made a strategic error. tritsofme Wednesday #54
I like the fire Sugarcoated Wednesday #55
No one whose judgment included marrying Kimberley Guilfoyle DJ Synikus Makisimus Wednesday #56
I disagree with some points, agree with others, and just plain don't markodochartaigh Wednesday #57
I think this is a load of CRAP, to criticize one of the few Democratic Party leaders Jack Valentino Wednesday #59
so bigtree Yesterday #60
'...and like all macho displays in response to political challenges, the OP's response contained more heat than light' Jack Valentino 8 hrs ago #89
it would be a different discussion if it centered on what I wrote in the op bigtree 7 hrs ago #92
Thank you, amigo.... My main fault on this forum has to be Jack Valentino 7 hrs ago #98
I stand with Gavin Blues Heron 19 hrs ago #61
👍 👏 💯 🗣🔊 ColoringFool 18 hrs ago #63
why is he attacking the Europeans? bigtree 17 hrs ago #65
Did you read what he said? It's a wake up call. Blues Heron 17 hrs ago #66
did I read it? bigtree 17 hrs ago #67
Your overreacting , this is 2026- there is a new, less uptight electorate out there, the fuddy duddy era is over Blues Heron 14 hrs ago #70
you're bigtree 13 hrs ago #71
This thread sure went south on you pretty quickly. BannonsLiver 13 hrs ago #73
I think Newsome was absolutely right. That is the problem with almost all politicians and so called leaders, Autumn 18 hrs ago #64
We need more Gavin Newsoms and less tone police Renew Deal 16 hrs ago #69
Hmmm, disinvesting in the US FHRRK 13 hrs ago #74
no, what you wrote is specious bigtree 12 hrs ago #75
Let me give some general advice FHRRK 10 hrs ago #81
it's already assumed in this format that respondants are positing their own opinions bigtree 10 hrs ago #82
Again, IMO, people are looking for fighters FHRRK 9 hrs ago #83
do you know what specious means? superficially plausible, but actually wrong bigtree 9 hrs ago #84
For the love of all things holy FHRRK 8 hrs ago #86
let me put it more plainly bigtree 8 hrs ago #87
"I lied..." FHRRK 8 hrs ago #88
did you tell the truth? bigtree 8 hrs ago #90
Whew! FHRRK 7 hrs ago #91
Bullshit. Newsom was brilliant. He's positioned himself as the anti-trump. Euro leaders want that. Sibelius Fan 12 hrs ago #76
he also positioned himself as anti-European leader bigtree 12 hrs ago #79
at least he's trying - which is a lot more than so many other leaders samsingh 12 hrs ago #77
but that's not the issue I'm raising here bigtree 12 hrs ago #78
Newsom really fucked over the elderly and disabled CountAllVotes 12 hrs ago #80
Recommended. H2O Man 7 hrs ago #99
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