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In reply to the discussion: From National Women's Law Center, from WH transcript..about Chained CPI. [View all]madfloridian
(88,117 posts)23. Yes, benefits will be reduced and the cost of stuff won't.
Here's a good article from Huff Post's Daniel Marans.
Ten Reasons Why the Chained CPI Is Terrible Policy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-marans/social-security-fiscal-cliff_b_2363997.html
Here are the first four listed. Note how very hard it would be to pick out which ones are the most needy and then exempt them.
Now that Christmas is over, President Obama and Speaker Boehner will soon resume talks to cut Social Security as part of a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. Here are 10 reasons why the chained CPI -- the Social Security cut they are considering -- is terrible policy.
....1. Chained CPI is a significant benefit cut that compounds over time, hitting late old-age beneficiaries and the long-time disabled hardest. For a worker with average earnings retiring at age 65 in 2015, chained CPI would cut benefits $653 a year (3.7 percent) at age 75, $1,139 a year (6.5 percent) at age 85 and $1,611 a year (9.2 percent) at age 95.
2. Chained CPI hits current beneficiaries. Even Paul Ryan tried to hold people ages 55 and older harmless from his plan to privatize Medicare (and Social Security before that). Seriously. Check out page 52 of his 2013 budget, and every speech he ever gave on the topic. The theory is, if you're gonna burn people, give them some time to adopt a Spartan lifestyle for several years so they can make up for the lost pension money in time for retirement.
3. Chained CPI cuts benefits for veterans. At least 771,000 veterans receive both Social Security and VA disability benefits. Under chained CPI, both would be cut. A fully disabled veteran claiming benefits at age 30 in 2012 would see a cut in VA benefits alone of $1,425 a year (4.3 percent) at age 45, $2,341 a year (7 percent) at age 55, and $3,231 a year (9.7 percent) at age 65.
4. Chained CPI cuts benefits for the indigent elderly and disabled on Supplemental Security Income (SSI). Do I need to add detail here? These are the poorest of the poor.
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From National Women's Law Center, from WH transcript..about Chained CPI. [View all]
madfloridian
Dec 2012
OP
It's Social Security. SSI is Supplemental Security Income which is a disability benefit n/t
duffyduff
Dec 2012
#38
So you are actually claiming that elderly and sick people equte to 'the rich' and should be treated
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2012
#20
If you have to "soften the blow" then there's a blow there to soften. Right?
Demo_Chris
Dec 2012
#18
Am I mistaken or do other parts of the government also get the cuts that are called COLA? For
jwirr
Dec 2012
#29
It will be other programs as well. I just posted this article...includes veterans, military.
madfloridian
Dec 2012
#33
It's amazing. They will protect the poorest while making the rest of us poorer.
madfloridian
Dec 2012
#40
I find that distasteful as well. Protect poorest, let the rest get poorer.
madfloridian
Dec 2012
#42
I didn't bold it because it means nothing at all. Exempt poorest but hurt the rest of us?
madfloridian
Dec 2012
#46
So you are saying it's fair to hurt those with other income? Those who prepared?
madfloridian
Dec 2012
#48