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Jack Valentino

(4,496 posts)
89. '...and like all macho displays in response to political challenges, the OP's response contained more heat than light'
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 08:23 PM
15 hrs ago

and perhaps my initial response was likewise----

but here you put a bunch of words into my mouth which I never said
nor meant to imply---- seems like sort of a 'macho display in response to a political challenge'!


Here's a newsflash for you: I am NOT committed to Newsom for 2028 nor any other candidate,
nor did I or do I "demand fealty" to any potential Democratic candidate from anyone else---

and I WAS responding to your initial personal comment paraphrased in the subject line
of this reply---- which is what set me off a little---

And you are right--- I think I 'hit reply' to that first comment in particular
without even seeing the balance of your comments at the bottom of your post,
which frankly go a little over my head-- I was not informed about Newsom's public comments there....

Your points may be quite valid, now that I've actually read them,
or at least worthy of discussion which is beyond me now, as well as last night...


I hope you will forgive my 'knee-jerk reaction' to this post---
you are actually among my favorite posters on DU,
but the words of your initial comment preceding the posting of the article excerpt
just hit me 'the wrong way'...

Nerves are pretty frayed right now, as I presume you will understand....










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Yeah he needs to be more weak and ineffectual like Merrick Garland. BannonsLiver Tuesday #1
Yup, par for the course LR3 Tuesday #3
Um, no Dave says Wednesday #50
You are absolutely right. sheshe2 Tuesday #2
Appeasement didn't work out too well for Europe in the 1930's newdeal2 Tuesday #4
I was disturbed when I heard him earlier today. brer cat Tuesday #5
He didn't "blow up" MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #6
So he didn't say... TheProle Tuesday #12
Newsom is right Skittles Tuesday #15
That wasn't my question to the previous poster, but noted. TheProle Tuesday #16
He was addressing the press. MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #94
Not arguing anymore TheProle 13 min ago #102
Mark Carney appears to be the only leader who truly gets it peggysue2 23 hrs ago #68
Right on time. Kingofalldems Tuesday #33
What do you mean? MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #93
+ 1. If I were casting a remake of The Darkest Hour starring DUers I know who would be playing Lord Halifax. BannonsLiver Tuesday #13
Thanks for the video IcyPeas Tuesday #20
You're welcome, and I agree with you. MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #95
i'm a considered writer, not a kneejerk poster, and I always make the effort to be clear bigtree Tuesday #23
European parliaments have frank discussion, at cachukis Tuesday #28
Nothing personal MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #96
He did not creon Wednesday #53
If he is planning to Greg_In_SF Tuesday #7
Right....because the other party is Bettie 21 hrs ago #72
You're right Greg_In_SF 16 hrs ago #85
There is nothing remotely MAGAt about Gavin Newsom MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #97
I never said there was. Greg_In_SF 5 hrs ago #100
Quite the ironic assertions Torchlight 4 hrs ago #101
Non-ugly American Starbeach Tuesday #8
not even wrong creon Tuesday #9
THANK YOU Skittles Tuesday #18
We are always in transition. Trump has spoiled the cachukis Tuesday #10
Agree IcyPeas Tuesday #22
DURec leftstreet Tuesday #11
Sorry he's absolutely right fujiyamasan Tuesday #14
I would say he is right. It's a fucking embarassment from all corners. Not excusing any US politician. boston bean Tuesday #17
Totally agree with you. nt Raine Tuesday #19
Newsom is right. And Europe consistently looks weak. Renew Deal Tuesday #21
Europe looks weak because they're dealing with internal issues haele Tuesday #30
What do you mean by TimeToGo Tuesday #35
Sorry, typing on my phone, will correct the stupid haele Tuesday #36
😎 We've all been there TimeToGo Tuesday #40
I couldn't agree more Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #24
He's right though. GoodRaisin Tuesday #25
Maybe. I think that they get it. themaguffin Tuesday #26
I'm on Newsom's side here. The entire world needs to be more vocal in their stances against Trump. LonePirate Tuesday #27
Hell no. TIME TO KICK SOME ASS. Irish_Dem Tuesday #29
"Nice guys finish last." Leo Durocher anciano Tuesday #31
..in bed. Qutzupalotl Wednesday #58
I voted for him for governor but I'd rather have someone else as President kimbutgar Tuesday #32
I support Newsom's remarks and attitude 100%.. Escape Tuesday #34
Wondering what European leaders think of America voters. Emile Tuesday #37
I find nothing wrong with what he said. nt Chalco Tuesday #38
Newsom is right about the complicity of the world's superrich. He's doing his part. I don't see any other Democratic ancianita Tuesday #39
how is this fellow the 'Democratic cause? ' bigtree Wednesday #46
Thanks for your usual thoughtful post. Much appreciated. I want to point out that he is frustrated, because ancianita Wednesday #48
Nothing worse than mealy mouthed apologists & critics of courage NotHardly Tuesday #41
Not a good look for Newsom. OGBuzz Tuesday #42
Hmmm GusBob Wednesday #43
Would giving specifics be viewed as treason? n/t BadgerKid Wednesday #44
Meh, when you lead an economy as large as California's, you get to say certain things JonAndKatePlusABird Wednesday #45
I doubt they cared at this point beyond bemusement bigtree Wednesday #47
Sorry, I'm sick and tired of meek capitulation. Arthur_Frain Wednesday #49
Well, The High Road markodochartaigh Wednesday #51
our votes for Obama kept the Democrats in control of the WH for EIGHT YEARS bigtree Yesterday #62
Yes--I felt it was a bit over the top with the "knee pads" and "pathetic" being thrown around crimycarny Wednesday #52
Newsom was right on substance but still made a strategic error. tritsofme Wednesday #54
I like the fire Sugarcoated Wednesday #55
No one whose judgment included marrying Kimberley Guilfoyle DJ Synikus Makisimus Wednesday #56
I disagree with some points, agree with others, and just plain don't markodochartaigh Wednesday #57
I think this is a load of CRAP, to criticize one of the few Democratic Party leaders Jack Valentino Wednesday #59
so bigtree Yesterday #60
'...and like all macho displays in response to political challenges, the OP's response contained more heat than light' Jack Valentino 15 hrs ago #89
it would be a different discussion if it centered on what I wrote in the op bigtree 14 hrs ago #92
Thank you, amigo.... My main fault on this forum has to be Jack Valentino 14 hrs ago #98
I stand with Gavin Blues Heron Yesterday #61
👍 👏 💯 🗣🔊 ColoringFool Yesterday #63
why is he attacking the Europeans? bigtree Yesterday #65
Did you read what he said? It's a wake up call. Blues Heron Yesterday #66
did I read it? bigtree Yesterday #67
Your overreacting , this is 2026- there is a new, less uptight electorate out there, the fuddy duddy era is over Blues Heron 21 hrs ago #70
you're bigtree 21 hrs ago #71
This thread sure went south on you pretty quickly. BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #73
I think Newsome was absolutely right. That is the problem with almost all politicians and so called leaders, Autumn Yesterday #64
We need more Gavin Newsoms and less tone police Renew Deal 23 hrs ago #69
Hmmm, disinvesting in the US FHRRK 20 hrs ago #74
no, what you wrote is specious bigtree 19 hrs ago #75
Let me give some general advice FHRRK 17 hrs ago #81
it's already assumed in this format that respondants are positing their own opinions bigtree 17 hrs ago #82
Again, IMO, people are looking for fighters FHRRK 17 hrs ago #83
do you know what specious means? superficially plausible, but actually wrong bigtree 16 hrs ago #84
For the love of all things holy FHRRK 16 hrs ago #86
let me put it more plainly bigtree 15 hrs ago #87
"I lied..." FHRRK 15 hrs ago #88
did you tell the truth? bigtree 15 hrs ago #90
Whew! FHRRK 15 hrs ago #91
Bullshit. Newsom was brilliant. He's positioned himself as the anti-trump. Euro leaders want that. Sibelius Fan 19 hrs ago #76
he also positioned himself as anti-European leader bigtree 19 hrs ago #79
at least he's trying - which is a lot more than so many other leaders samsingh 19 hrs ago #77
but that's not the issue I'm raising here bigtree 19 hrs ago #78
Newsom really fucked over the elderly and disabled CountAllVotes 19 hrs ago #80
Recommended. H2O Man 14 hrs ago #99
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