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125. Now let's do Hoover

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:02 PM

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1924–1972 | THE ARCHITECT (J. EDGAR HOOVER)

Milestone: Hoover serves as Director of the FBI for 48 years.

Connection: He perfects the "Official and Confidential" filing system. He is known to be a closeted individual who uses evidence of "sexual deviance" to blackmail politicians, judges, and activists. He mentors a young Roy Cohn during the McCarthy era.

1967 | THE ENTRY

Milestone: Jeffrey Epstein (14) attends Interlochen Arts Camp in Michigan.

Connection: Epstein enters the Michigan "hunting ground" while Hoover is still at the height of his power and Cohn is the top "fixer" in New York.

1970 | THE ISLAND

Milestone: Multi-millionaire Francis Shelden buys North Fox Island and builds a 3,000ft private airstrip.

Connection: Hoover’s FBI is notoriously hands-off regarding wealthy donor "social clubs," despite local police concerns about the North Fox property.

1972 | THE HAND-OFF

Milestone: J. Edgar Hoover dies. Roy Cohn effectively "inherits" many of Hoover’s methods and connections.

Connection: Cohn continues the tradition of using sexual kompromat to protect his clients, which now include Mafia dons (Tony Salerno) and rising stars like Donald Trump.

1973 | THE APPRENTICE

Milestone: Donald Trump meets Roy Cohn. Cohn begins a 13-year daily mentorship.

Connection: Trump is brought into the "Hoover-Cohn" world—where legal problems are solved through influence and secrets rather than law.

1975 | THE MISSION

Milestone: Shelden and Gerald Richards form "Brother Paul’s Children’s Mission" (North Fox Island).

Connection: Adam Starchild (offshore expert) manages the finances. The FBI (now post-Hoover but still staffed by his loyalists) remains curiously distant from the operation's high-level patrons.

1976–1977 | THE BUST & THE COVER-UP

Milestone: Michigan State Police raid North Fox Island. Roy Cohn is allegedly linked to "missing" hearings on child exploitation (LEG 127.60).

Connection: Despite 600 names on the client list, no "high-level" individuals are prosecuted. The OCCK case in Michigan goes cold simultaneously.

1984 | THE INCIDENT

Milestone: FBI Doc EFTA00025010: Claims Trump/Epstein were at an infanticide in Lake Michigan.

Connection: This is the peak of the Cohn-Trump relationship. Cohn is using the "Hoover Playbook" to keep his and his clients' private lives out of the press.

1986–1994 | THE EVOLUTION

Milestone: Roy Cohn dies (1986). Jeffrey Epstein begins his meteoric rise as a billionaire "philanthropist."

Connection: Epstein fills the power vacuum left by Cohn. He begins heavy funding of the Epstein Lodge at Interlochen (1990), using the same "charitable mission" cover Shelden used in the 70s.

2025–2026 | THE PRESENT

Milestone: DOJ releases the "Epstein Files," naming Bill Riley and revealing the 1984 tip.

Connection: The release finally shines a light on the 50-year "Hoover Model" of using remote islands and camps to facilitate—and then hide—high-level crimes.

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The Sasha Riley story sounds like BS [View all] Brenda Jan 15 OP

You know his adopted father was Epstein's pilot right? questionseverything Jan 15 #1

I didn't. That's interesting... hlthe2b Jan 15 #3

I don't know that for a fact. And if so, it doesn't mean all the rest... Brenda Jan 15 #7

I'm not going to pretend to understand that mindset questionseverything Jan 15 #13

Wut? Brenda Jan 15 #25

They think that if you don't believe every accusation against Trump, then you're defending him. Dr. Strange Thursday #114

He is a murdering thug. Why can't people accept it. He is a monster. travelingthrulife Jan 16 #45

I never denied any of that. Brenda Jan 16 #51

Information for you Jimbalaya Jan 16 #54

Still not a barn in Alabama. nt Brenda Jan 16 #57

Have you never seen a country rich farm in the south? They are called plantations Jimbalaya Jan 16 #59

Post removed Post removed Jan 16 #61

whiff Jimbalaya Jan 16 #69

Gulles de Rais and Trump/Epstein including a demon named Barron. Blue Full Moon Jan 16 #50

We don't know what Trump has done. yardwork Thursday #119

More than that, even. BComplex Jan 15 #10

A lot of assumptions. Brenda Jan 15 #16

I really don't know what your agenda is. Are you trying to prove or disprove something BComplex Jan 15 #26

I have no agenda Brenda Jan 15 #29

So you didn't read or listen to Sasha's interview. travelingthrulife Jan 16 #46

Let's be accurate here canetoad Thursday #108

I am only superficially informed, but my instincts tell me this is a trap... hlthe2b Jan 15 #2

if the story is real riley will be dead soon enough rampartd Jan 15 #4

Were it true, H2O Man Jan 15 #11

Why? No one seems to believe him anyway questionseverything Jan 15 #14

Where is Epstein? H2O Man Jan 15 #15

Yes they do say they were trafficked questionseverything Jan 15 #17

They aren't saying Trump trafficked them EdmondDantes_ Jan 15 #18

Key point. H2O Man Jan 15 #20

No kidding. H2O Man Jan 15 #19

Because it's *rump's justice department doing the redacting questionseverything Jan 15 #24

Oh, really? H2O Man Jan 15 #27

This victim said that Epstein was subordinate to Trump in the business. He said he thought travelingthrulife Jan 16 #47

Since you did not H2O Man Jan 16 #73

Of course there is no evidence if you never look. travelingthrulife Sunday #100

I was gonna rec your post Brenda Jan 15 #21

It is an H2O Man Jan 15 #23

Yes they are - are you crazy? Jimbalaya Jan 16 #70

Yes. H2O Man Jan 16 #72

You: "Zero evidence Trump was part of Epstein's child sex ring" Jimbalaya Jan 16 #74

One would have H2O Man Jan 16 #75

Epstein "sold" a girl to Trump - he paid with a $22,500 novelty check. Jimbalaya Jan 16 #81

Comic genius! H2O Man Jan 16 #89

sick you find it all so funny Jimbalaya Saturday #93

You H2O Man Saturday #95

You Jimbalaya Sunday #96

So he has to be murdered before we check it out? travelingthrulife Jan 16 #56

I agree. It's too pat, and it's too similar to satanic panic stories. Scrivener7 Jan 15 #35

Agree - sounds like an elaborate set-up. jmbar2 Jan 16 #79

I'm pretty sure Trump has never been in a barn anywhere-- viva la Jan 15 #5

Exactly. Simple smell test for this fantasy that people want to believe. nt Brenda Jan 15 #9

It is an H2O Man Jan 15 #12

Absolutely agree. nt Brenda Jan 15 #22

How? MorbidButterflyTat Jan 16 #83

It doesn't... it makes the release of the Epstein files imperative questionseverything Jan 16 #86

I can't see Trump doing that kind of dirty work with his own two hands misanthrope Jan 15 #34

I seem to vaguely recall he's a germaphobe or something? I just can't imagine him wanting to touch an animal... Alice B. Jan 15 #40

He has sex with strangers all the time. He is not a germaphobe until he travelingthrulife Jan 16 #48

There is that. Alice B. Jan 16 #67

the names he was dropping as people that participated lapfog_1 Jan 15 #6

I agree with all of this. What you describe is plausible. The Riley story doesn't seem to be. Scrivener7 Jan 15 #36

He didn't run into these people. He and Epstein brought them there to compromise them. travelingthrulife Jan 16 #49

It would actually explain why jim jordon never reported the locker room rapes questionseverything Jan 16 #88

Let us see the unredacted files. tavernier Jan 15 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author LuckyCharms Jan 15 #28

I don't know whether or not to believe this. But,... GoCubsGo Jan 15 #30

Yes and that's the problem PatSeg Jan 15 #33

GoCubsGo..... Upthevibe Jan 15 #42

I always suspected that Graham is hiding something like this. GoCubsGo Jan 15 #43

Sascha Riley and Lisa Noelle Voldeng claim that they spoke with Senator Wyden Wiz Imp Jan 15 #31

There are also filed police reports from some of the violent 'parties' travelingthrulife Jan 16 #55

I also have grave doubts. It sounds a lot like what the QANON folks accuse Tom Hanks Coventina Jan 15 #32

This exactly. Scrivener7 Jan 15 #37

Why would you post this? OneGrassRoot Jan 15 #38

And so emphatically MorbidButterflyTat Jan 16 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Jan 16 #87

Muddy the water. Woodwizard Jan 15 #39

I take it that no credible outlet or reporter bagimin Jan 15 #41

Some corroborating evidence Jimbalaya Jan 16 #44

Welcome to DU ! KS Toronado Jan 16 #52

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Jan 16 #66

More sources Jimbalaya Jan 16 #53

I've not heard the claims but it appears Trump did travel to Alabama in the 70''s. mzmolly Jan 16 #58

How do you feel about the Katie Johnson and Virginia Giuffre stories? LuckyCharms Jan 16 #60

So if I believe those women Brenda Jan 16 #62

To some, their stories sound outlandish too. LuckyCharms Jan 16 #63

Sasha was a little kid at the time and if his memories are exaggerated by trauma questionseverything Jan 16 #80

Brenda....... Upthevibe Jan 16 #64

Thanks for that. I read her Letters From an American every day. Brenda Jan 16 #65

I absolutely feel that Psy-Ops is what's happening Upthevibe Jan 16 #68

Dan Rather's career was discredited by fake documents of a real event. mackdaddy Jan 16 #71

Please explain blue cat Jan 16 #76

Exactly questionseverything Jan 16 #77

Well Donald is weak he can stand blood Historic NY Jan 16 #78

Can someone please provide a credible link to this story? MorbidButterflyTat Jan 16 #82

This is a link to Lisa Voldeng's substack canetoad Jan 16 #85

Thanks! MorbidButterflyTat Jan 16 #91

I wish someone would transcribe the testimony questionseverything Jan 16 #90

Thanks for the warning! MorbidButterflyTat Jan 16 #92

Sasha is telling the truth, uncomfortable as that may be. Blue Full Moon Saturday #94

Corroborating evidence Jimbalaya Sunday #97

Additional details re: BComplex Jimbalaya Sunday #101

Victim blaming is not cool. Emile Sunday #98

where are you Brenda? Jimbalaya Sunday #99

Post deleted in reply to your #59 dpibel Sunday #103

Thanks for your reply Jimbalaya Monday #105

Extraordinary Claims Do Not Survive Basic Scrutiny truddy777 Sunday #102

Then provide basic scrutiny Jimbalaya Monday #104

Message auto-removed Name removed Thursday #106

I said this days ago but you'll get accused of right wing Melon Thursday #107

I'm sure the Voldeng woman canetoad Thursday #109

And it deflates the impact of the truth when it does come out. meadowlander Thursday #110

That's quite the conspiracy you assert. Torchlight Thursday #111

some details are far fetched. others aren't. Jimbalaya Thursday #112

one last detail Jimbalaya Thursday #113

I grew up in that time period. In a rural area. Melon Thursday #115

Hi Melon, what exactly is not credible? Jimbalaya Thursday #117

Trump was a mobbed-up debt-ridden casino thug in the 80s Jimbalaya Thursday #118

The wrestling announcer Jim Ross, from Oklahoma, had a story like this in his book Just_Vote_Dem Thursday #120

Same was said about Virginia Giuffre. Kid Berwyn Thursday #116

Francis Sheldon, Jeffrey Epstein, and the Oakland County Child Killer - within 40 miles for 40 years Jimbalaya Thursday #121

Yo tell me this doesn't look like Jeffery Epstein Jimbalaya Thursday #122

Now, consider Roy Cohn Jimbalaya Thursday #123

Timeline - Trump, Epstein, Sheldon, Cohn - Lake Michigan Jimbalaya Thursday #124

Now let's do Hoover Jimbalaya Thursday #125

I haven't paid a lot of attention to the Sasha Riley story but I will say this, it is not that unusual for tulipsandroses Yesterday #126