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EarlG

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Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:38 PM Jan 2026

I've been hearing a lot about how citizen observers should refrain from "interfering" with law enforcement [View all]

and more startlingly, that if the law enforcement officers decide that they are "interfering," then those citizens have nobody but themselves to blame if they are shot dead in the street.

I thought it might be instructive to remember how the people who are now cheering on the murder of U.S. citizens by federal agents -- citizens who are exercising their First and Second Amendment rights by simply filming agents in the street, or legally carrying a firearm with a permit -- were behaving when Barack Obama was president.

In 2014, the Bureau of Land Management finally decided to crack down on Cliven Bundy's illegal cattle-grazing in Nevada. He had been allowing his cattle to graze on federal land, which is against the law, for 20 years. Here's what happened, according to the SPLC:

The standoff very nearly ended in bloodshed, as large numbers of Bundy supporters pointed their weapons at law enforcement officials, a felony that is now under investigation by the FBI. The BLM wisely withdrew, avoiding possible violence.

(snip)

The scariest incident happened in Utah, where two men pointed a handgun at a BLM worker in a marked federal vehicle while holding up a sign that said, “You need to die.”

(snip)

For those harboring deep hatred of the federal government, the BLM pullout was seen as a dramatic victory, one instance where the armed radicals of the right stared through their own gunsights at the gun barrels of law enforcement officials and won. Rather than being condemned, their actions garnered the support of numerous politicians, including the governor of Nevada and commentators like Fox News’ Sean Hannity — a truly repulsive spectacle.

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/war-west-bundy-ranch-standoff-and-american-radical-right/










Renee Good was shot in the face for trying to get away from an ICE agent who was attempting to violently force open the door of her car. At the time, she was committing a minor traffic offense. Alex Pretti was pepper sprayed and assaulted for filming ICE agents and trying to help up a woman who had been shoved to the ground. When ICE agents found that he was carrying a firearm -- for which he had a permit, and which he never brandished -- they removed it from him and then shot him in the back.

For this, both Good and Pretti were branded domestic terrorists by high-ranking members of the U.S. government.

Meanwhile, Cliven Bundy was in the process of committing a crime, and the Bureau of Land Management officers had come to stop him. The people at Bundy Ranch were not bystanders protesting, or filming the proceedings -- they were friends of Bundy who directly prevented law enforcement from carrying out their duties. They did this by pointing loaded weapons at the officers, some from sniper positions, and making threatening statements.

For this, the people brandishing their weapons and threatening federal agents were celebrated by the same people who support the current regime.

Do we really need any more proof that these so-called freedom-lovers have always just been rank hypocrites who care less about the country than they do about inflicting violence on people who disagree with them politically?
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DURec leftstreet Jan 2026 #1
Yep. cilla4progress Jan 2026 #2
I've seen pics of this guy portrayed as a govt personnel staring down the barrel at citizens underpants Jan 2026 #3
Nailed it malaise Jan 2026 #4
Ayuh. 2naSalit Jan 2026 #5
"Do we really need any more proof..." OldBaldy1701E Jan 2026 #6
There were many DU threads on that Bundy incident BumRushDaShow Jan 2026 #7
Good question. But the thugs (in the White House and out) would change their rationales quick. erronis Jan 2026 #8
Yeah, when ICE killers feel like shooting their guns, civilians shouldn't interfere with the bullets' trajectory. n/t DFW Jan 2026 #9
Their level of hypocrisy is quite amazing. The J6 Insurrection, this incident with Bundy, and what Rittenhouse did ... xocetaceans Jan 2026 #10
Excellent post! evolves Jan 2026 #11
Were they some of the guys who took over a small government building Attilatheblond Jan 2026 #12
And remember during Covid when armed right-wing protestors took over the Michigan Capitol? Ol Janx Spirit Jan 2026 #13
Remembering Corporal Spivey in the movie Dances with Wolves Donkees Jan 2026 #25
This says everything.....................and I mean everything..............they are rank hypocrites............. turbinetree Jan 2026 #14
K&R orangecrush Jan 2026 #15
KNR. I remember that horror. One of the things that I remember with a certain niyad Jan 2026 #16
AK 47 murder damifino10 Jan 2026 #17
They don't shoot each other. Kid Berwyn Jan 2026 #18
Excellent reminder of the utter hypocrisy of this administration and their supporters. llmart Jan 2026 #19
letting them get away with that quakerboy Jan 2026 #20
Exactly! OldBaldy1701E Jan 2026 #28
That sign: "Big Government Takeover. Here's your proof. Who's next?" Beartracks Jan 2026 #21
K&R red dog 1 Jan 2026 #22
This is where the right wing-nuts learned they could get away with this with no consequences. flashman13 Jan 2026 #23
And never forget his spawn; Ammon Bundy charliea Jan 2026 #24
bundy was stealing from america. pansypoo53219 Jan 2026 #26
It's the UpInArms Jan 2026 #27
Such one-side is allowed to do it, but not you Dems or liberals BS. Carried through for decades, and obvious in MN Evolve Dammit Jan 2026 #29
I was in the damn traffic jam caused by these lunatics. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2026 #30
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