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highplainsdem

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Tue Jan 27, 2026, 11:54 AM Jan 27

How Silicon Valley built AI: Buying, scanning and discarding millions of books [View all]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/01/27/anthropic-ai-scan-destroy-books/

In early 2024, executives at artificial intelligence start-up Anthropic ramped up an ambitious project they sought to keep quiet. “Project Panama is our effort to destructively scan all the books in the world,” an internal planning document unsealed in legal filings last week said. “We don’t want it to be known that we are working on this.”

Within about a year, according to the filings, the company had spent tens of millions of dollars to acquire and slice the spines off millions of books, before scanning their pages to feed more knowledge into the AI models behind products such as its popular chatbot Claude.

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Books were viewed by the companies as a crucial prize, the court records show. In a January 2023 document, one Anthropic co-founder theorized that training AI models on books could teach them “how to write well” instead of mimicking “low quality internet speak.” A 2024 email inside Meta described accessing a digital trove of books as “essential” to being competitive with its AI rivals.

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On several occasions, Meta employees raised concerns in internal messages that downloading a collection of millions of books without permission would violate copyright law. In December 2023, an internal email said the practice had been approved after “escalation to MZ,” an apparent reference to CEO Mark Zuckerberg, according to filings in a copyright lawsuit brought by book authors against the company. Meta declined to comment for this story.

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Much more at the link.

To the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing as an ethical, legally trained generative AI model.

No such thing as an ethical genAI company.

No such thing as an ethical genAI tech executive, company owner/investor or staffer, including scientists, who knew of the intellectual property theft and went along with it.

The training of all these AI models involved the greatest theft of intellectual property ever.

If you're aware of that theft, you should NOT be using genAI voluntarily, or promoting its use, including by circulating what's produced by genAI - whethet it's text, images, video or music. Because if you do so, you're giving a thumbs-up to the theft, and to thieves who belong in prison.

I know some people are forced by their schools or jobs to use genAI. They should still point out that it's unethical, just as I hope they would if child labor or slavery was involved.


EDITING to link to two threads about the very appropriate reaction on Bluesky to a teacher's union head having foolishly posted AI slop she thought was "fun" -

American Federation of Teachers president thought AI slop would be "fun" to share on Bluesky. Big mistake.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220895596

If you support unions (DUers should) but still think it's OK to post AI slop, see the hundreds of Bluesky replies
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220895856
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Damn, that is really disturbing PatSeg Jan 27 #1
It should be. An entire industry built on theft, with the theft continuing, and both the companies and highplainsdem Jan 27 #3
It is all so big and happening so fast PatSeg Jan 27 #5
Silicon Valley SOP is "Move fast and break things" - but with genAI they added "and steal things." They've highplainsdem Jan 27 #8
"Move fast" PatSeg Jan 27 #12
🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 SheltieLover Jan 27 #2
I agree, Sheltie. highplainsdem Jan 27 #4
I know SheltieLover Jan 27 #6
Thanks! highplainsdem Jan 27 #9
A must read. dalton99a Jan 27 #7
Thanks! highplainsdem Jan 27 #15
In theory if they actually paid for all the works used, would it be ethical? EdmondDantes_ Jan 27 #10
No, it wouldn't be ethical or legal. highplainsdem Jan 27 #11
How does that differ from people being able to do the same? EdmondDantes_ Jan 27 #13
Thanks for spotting that I'd botched that link. Just fixed it. highplainsdem Jan 27 #16
AI is here to make us all dumber and lazier so the oligarchs can do whatever they want. Coventina Jan 27 #14
Each genAI company seems to be trying to create a chatbot that users will become addicted to and highplainsdem Jan 27 #18
Or to know anything we aren't spoon-fed. Coventina Jan 27 #20
A lot don't use AI and don't pay attention to it for that reason. And too many of the ones who do use highplainsdem Jan 27 #21
Kick and Rec berniesandersmittens Jan 27 #17
Thanks! highplainsdem Jan 27 #19
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