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LisaM

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32. Strangely enough, that's somewhat true, not that it should apply here.

Tue Jan 27, 2026, 11:58 AM

Jan 27

My sister-in-law, who is at Notre Dame, went to a conference on ethics years ago up in Vancouver BC, and she had many anecdotes that support that. In some cultures they shared answers, in others they worked together when the teacher left the room, and so on. Overall, the learning was more collaborative, though it's not quite as cut and dried as I am making it sound. Most cultures were against whatever was considered cheating there.

That said, it's made pretty clear when you enroll what is legit and what's not. I have a cousin who teaches at a very prestigious college and what students try to pull on her is unbelievable, all with parental, and often with administrative, backup.

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"Oh! My little sweetums isn't going to get into Harvard* because of you!" Teaching "the entitled." [View all] Are_grits_groceries Jan 27 OP

The parents are raising a bunch of little Donald Trumps. n/t CousinIT Jan 27 #1

You won't get that unfairly treated story from me NJCher Jan 27 #2

Strangely enough, that's somewhat true, not that it should apply here. LisaM Jan 27 #32

Must have been using corporate ethics rules. LiberalArkie Jan 27 #41

Jeez. Collaboration is one thing, cheating is another. Joinfortmill Jan 27 #52

I completely agree. LisaM Jan 27 #57

Yes Timewas Jan 27 #3

I'm afraid this is one of a few countries multigraincracker Jan 27 #4

been going on for years. AllaN01Bear Jan 27 #8

And the elderly. rubbersole Jan 27 #9

As well as a low regard for education PatSeg Jan 27 #13

Indeed, it's not seen as a way to better oneself overall Wednesdays Jan 27 #23

True, it isn't about learning PatSeg Jan 27 #31

My wife taught high school for 35 years AverageOldGuy Jan 27 #5

I had certain lines. Are_grits_groceries Jan 27 #7

Sounds like my wife lonely bird Jan 27 #29

Teachers are on the front lines of a cultural shift. yardwork Jan 27 #6

Even Harvard sends out a word of advice with its rejection letters DFW Jan 27 #10

You know, I don't think legacy admissions are always bad. LisaM Jan 27 #28

I'm sure there is plenty of both DFW Jan 27 #64

My daughter was Valedictorian of her high school Mossfern Jan 27 #51

I live near Princeton and often use their amazing libraries. NNadir Jan 27 #59

Considering Mossfern Jan 27 #62

Your daughter is, I'm sure, all the better for it. NNadir Jan 27 #67

Good for her! DFW Jan 27 #66

That is such a hilarious and heart warming story! Mossfern Jan 27 #69

When I had explained what the pledge was, she asked a very German question. DFW Jan 28 #73

Ah, a brilliant child. Mossfern Jan 28 #74

Love this. 'Revenge is best served cold.' Joinfortmill Jan 27 #53

They gave her a polite, standard impersonal rejection. DFW Jan 28 #78

I've had a couple of work colleagues from Harvard: snot Jan 28 #77

I honor your service, grits. Clouds Passing Jan 27 #11

You are clearly doing the right thing Jarqui Jan 27 #12

They'll learn to cheat their way through life. A habit that never occurred to me. enigmania Jan 27 #14

I've encountered the end result of this process at the college level. cab67 Jan 27 #15

Cheating is never OK at any level. Hoosier_Progressiv Jan 27 #18

luckily for me - cab67 Jan 27 #68

That is so true, and it's hurting academia. LisaM Jan 27 #34

Yes, me too. meadowlander Jan 27 #54

I could never be a teacher. Aristus Jan 27 #16

I spent part of my career teaching in the suburbs of Washington, DC. Are_grits_groceries Jan 27 #20

"I quit seeing pediatric patients because of shitty parents." 3catwoman3 Jan 27 #30

Well done! Aristus Jan 27 #43

I remember feeling pretty anxious, as standing up to bombastic assholes... 3catwoman3 Jan 27 #48

if something had gone wrong that asshole would be suing you immediately Skittles Jan 27 #72

Wow. Amazes me. I practically worshipped my pediatrician. He knew his 'shit', if you'll excuse the expression.. Joinfortmill Jan 27 #55

Expression excused - shit, in all its forms, is a major topic of discussion... 3catwoman3 Jan 27 #58

Lol Joinfortmill Jan 27 #60

I'm a primary care provider. I don't really have any interest in pediatrics, even separate from parental douchebaggery. Aristus Jan 27 #65

makes me appreciate my parents more Skittles Jan 27 #71

Harvard has open enrollment degrees that are worthwhile. SSJVegeta Jan 27 #17

Not according to that parent. Are_grits_groceries Jan 27 #22

You must have expected this reply: Bobstandard Jan 27 #36

They Should Thank You! MineralMan Jan 27 #19

I told them over and over that a zero would not kill him. Are_grits_groceries Jan 27 #24

I know. They should listen. MineralMan Jan 27 #25

That's true of the kid who didn't study Tree Lady Jan 27 #38

Similiar issues at the preschool i worked at for many years, mwmisses4289 Jan 27 #21

Thank you , Are_grits_groceries. As a retired teacher who taught for 42 years. I saw this happening toward the end of my debm55 Jan 27 #26

Great post! All blessings to you. My grandparents raised me, and both were teachers. txwhitedove Jan 27 #27

I had a run in with a teacher JustAnotherGen Jan 27 #33

Guidelines Needed PikaBlue Jan 27 #35

Same thing happened to me in first grade. malthaussen Jan 27 #37

Do your own damn work! - my dad paleotn Jan 27 #44

My parents were both in education haele Jan 27 #39

When my youngest son was in elementary school I'd greet him with the question... NNadir Jan 27 #40

Guess I'm just old and grew up in a different time paleotn Jan 27 #42

Amen to that. Joinfortmill Jan 27 #56

Sounds like you're a great teacher PJMcK Jan 27 #45

One of the reasons I didn't pursue an academic career Easterncedar Jan 27 #46

See.... Jughead Jan 27 #47

Sweetums was never going to get into Harvard. TNNurse Jan 27 #49

Yup, consequences matter...It builds character. Joinfortmill Jan 27 #50

They're not raising resilient kids fujiyamasan Jan 27 #61

Slightly off topic, but not much. When I was in 3rd grade... 3catwoman3 Jan 27 #63

One of a myriad of reasons JokeHer Jan 27 #70

Zero accountability from these people. Scott Alan Swaggerty Jan 28 #75

I became a teacher as a second career, I thought long about this before I responded. cksmithy Jan 28 #76