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MFrohike

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41. What I really find distasteful

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:13 PM

Dec 2012

The claim that those who are "most vulnerable" will be protected. That's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard. If you want a program to survive, you tie it to benefits for the middle class. That's political reality in this country. If you don't really give a damn if it fails or not, then you explicitly tie it to the poor. The poor have a weak constituency at best and benefits to them can readily be damned as waste and examples of how the "competitive spirit" are being sapped. When I see proposals like this, I have to conclude that the administration is either stupid or full of shit. There really isn't a middle ground because this really is American politics 101.

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From National Women's Law Center, from WH transcript..about Chained CPI. [View all] madfloridian Dec 2012 OP

Correction: It is National Women's Law Center madfloridian Dec 2012 #1

You an edit your subject line. There is no time limit. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #28

Thanks, I keep forgetting there is no time limit now. madfloridian Dec 2012 #34

Old people first. Who's next? forestpath Dec 2012 #2

Don't forget this includes veterans. I find it all shameful.. madfloridian Dec 2012 #43

These are not the droids you are looking for MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #3

Thank you. Great info. n/t TDale313 Dec 2012 #4

Thanks. I thought they were very good sources. madfloridian Dec 2012 #6

K&R hay rick Dec 2012 #5

Hey. madfloridian Dec 2012 #9

K&R. No more cuts to SSI period. Hurts too many people. Too arbitrary. Overseas Dec 2012 #7

Good post. It doesn't need to happen. madfloridian Dec 2012 #11

It's Social Security. SSI is Supplemental Security Income which is a disability benefit n/t duffyduff Dec 2012 #38

Finally some truth ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #8

It is indeed true, they like us at each others throats Dragonfli Dec 2012 #13

So you are actually claiming that elderly and sick people equte to 'the rich' and should be treated Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #20

Which part of ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #25

Senator Bernie Sanders: "Do not adopt the so-called Chained CPI." cer7711 Dec 2012 #10

The main person speaking out strongly is an Independent senator. madfloridian Dec 2012 #22

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #26

We need to have the President's back. CranialRectaLoopback Dec 2012 #12

No, he needs to have our backs for once /nt Dragonfli Dec 2012 #14

Damn right newfie11 Dec 2012 #15

Question on chained CPI Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #16

Yes, benefits will be reduced and the cost of stuff won't. madfloridian Dec 2012 #23

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #27

du rec. nt xchrom Dec 2012 #17

If you have to "soften the blow" then there's a blow there to soften. Right? Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #18

Ah, yes. madfloridian Dec 2012 #19

Even Richard Nixon knew better than to cut benefits: Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #21

Thanks for the Nixon quote. madfloridian Dec 2012 #24

Am I mistaken or do other parts of the government also get the cuts that are called COLA? For jwirr Dec 2012 #29

Maybe. hay rick Dec 2012 #30

I've always wondered why there were any limits on how much you could liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #31

Thank you. jwirr Dec 2012 #32

It will be other programs as well. I just posted this article...includes veterans, military. madfloridian Dec 2012 #33

k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #35

It will affect veterans. madfloridian Dec 2012 #36

Obama said it himself today. He has agreed to it. madfloridian Dec 2012 #37

the 'fallacy' part is very important Enrique Dec 2012 #39

It's amazing. They will protect the poorest while making the rest of us poorer. madfloridian Dec 2012 #40

What I really find distasteful MFrohike Dec 2012 #41

I find that distasteful as well. Protect poorest, let the rest get poorer. madfloridian Dec 2012 #42

About that "birthday bump" for the oldest and poorest...oh come on! madfloridian Dec 2012 #44

The sentence you don't bold is the more important one: bhikkhu Dec 2012 #45

I didn't bold it because it means nothing at all. Exempt poorest but hurt the rest of us? madfloridian Dec 2012 #46

But raising the cap does the same thing bhikkhu Dec 2012 #47

So you are saying it's fair to hurt those with other income? Those who prepared? madfloridian Dec 2012 #48

In essence, that's what our progressive income tax system does bhikkhu Dec 2012 #49

Right now to me it's all a bunch of baloney. madfloridian Dec 2012 #50

^ Wilms Dec 2012 #51