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83. California finances and public institutions started going bad under Reagan

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:16 PM

Dec 2012

I have lived in California and a 5th and 4th generation 100% in ancestory, all arrived prior to 1880.

Also have spent 50 years in California and the other 10 in Oregon. I liked Oregon.

Don't think California is the worst state and is likely the state that would most thrive as a independent nation.

No way would I support succession but would like to see the state split (northcoast Californian to the bone).

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What is the most screwed up state in the Union? [View all] CanonRay Dec 2012 OP

I voted Kansas MuseRider Dec 2012 #1

There was a feature piece in the KC Star today on that nutjob Telly Savalas Dec 2012 #17

Thanks for the links. MuseRider Dec 2012 #33

Star put in a pay wall. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #86

The second link MuseRider Dec 2012 #68

lots of Kansas hate here thanks to Thomas Frank hfojvt Dec 2012 #64

I understand what you're saying but still think that's an important book proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #88

I probably should buckle down and read the entire thing MuseRider Dec 2012 #98

Me too of course. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #87

Good lord that is some powerful stuff MuseRider Dec 2012 #92

I like the Lawrence paper lots better than Topeka's proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #94

It's a hard choice when you get to the Southern States Siwsan Dec 2012 #2

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #13

Ok, you completely lost me, there Siwsan Dec 2012 #19

The nutjobs here don't hold a candle to the ones in Florida. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #25

Even my beloved State of Michigan is overrun with YIKES! Siwsan Dec 2012 #29

A Bill toBan global warming? I must have missed that little Looney tune move! Sadiedog Dec 2012 #43

Actually, it was a ban of using climate change science... GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #47

Well, positive strides in returning Alan Grayson and booting Allen West, anyway Siwsan Dec 2012 #48

What about the "Obama using mind control" freaks in Georgia? Nt daa Dec 2012 #41

Them, too. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #44

not even honorable mention for terrible tennessee? spanone Dec 2012 #3

I can't believe I left Rand Paul's home state off. My bad CanonRay Dec 2012 #5

that's kentucky!!! your choices are greater than you ever imagined!!! spanone Dec 2012 #23

Or Ron Paul's home state... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #53

I'm going to have to re-do this poll with ALL 50 states. CanonRay Dec 2012 #72

LMAO. Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #74

I don't know, a lotof people wanted California... CanonRay Dec 2012 #112

Well I can understand that... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #115

No Texas or Wisconsin? MiniMe Dec 2012 #4

I was thinking Wisconsin, but Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #9

Texas? Really? How come? narnian60 Dec 2012 #20

Typical Texan AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #34

I'm sorry Narnian AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #39

Apology accepted, of course, AldoLeopold. narnian60 Dec 2012 #77

Thanks for understanding my rage AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #97

As a Texan, may I direct your attention to: NoPasaran Dec 2012 #62

I know, I know! narnian60 Dec 2012 #79

Maybe not at this exact moment in time NoPasaran Dec 2012 #82

Texas, California, Wisconsin, Colorado Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #27

+1 AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #35

Me too Brainstormy Dec 2012 #56

It was a tough choice connecticut yankee Dec 2012 #6

Florida, just because they seem full of bozos who quinnox Dec 2012 #7

California former-republican Dec 2012 #8

+1 Coyote_Tan Dec 2012 #11

as to be expected from a "former" republican quinnox Dec 2012 #24

It's good in terms of liberal social policy, but the state's finances are a train wreck slackmaster Dec 2012 #37

Yet, people jump on FL. Obama. Twice. Must be closet GOPers, here Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #75

Ill consider California a "liberal" state again when... bunnies Dec 2012 #113

Utah. Chan790 Dec 2012 #10

I have lived all over the US and I vote Utah as well siligut Dec 2012 #40

I only traveled through Utah and it seemed like I was in a episode of The Twilight Zone! Sadiedog Dec 2012 #45

how is blueknight Dec 2012 #12

Are you kidding? NeoConsSuck Dec 2012 #14

Michigan is working hard to take the lead etherealtruth Dec 2012 #15

Hawaii -- for having the worst voting record last 20 years maggiesfarmer Dec 2012 #16

Utah, Mississippi, Alabama, and Kansas are 4 states I would not live in - Oh, Oklahoma too 1-Old-Man Dec 2012 #18

I voted other davidpdx Dec 2012 #21

I've lived in California for more than 50 years. I remember what things used to be like here. slackmaster Dec 2012 #22

I had trouble deciding and it's my poll CanonRay Dec 2012 #36

California finances and public institutions started going bad under Reagan PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #83

was thinking michigan but kansas seems to try harder. dembotoz Dec 2012 #26

I voted florida.. pangaia Dec 2012 #28

Was going to say Fl as that old saying goes kydo Dec 2012 #30

California ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #31

Dude, have you ever lived in Texas? AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #32

Other - Georgia, because it's gleefully sliding downhill Glorfindel Dec 2012 #38

Kansas at the top but Michigan is giving asjr Dec 2012 #42

This is an interesting thread. CrispyQ Dec 2012 #46

Texas.nt rrneck Dec 2012 #49

AZ all the way farminator3000 Dec 2012 #50

Agreed... Arizona out- crazies them all farmbo Dec 2012 #52

Aside from some beautiful scenery, Arizona sucks-there was once feral camels in Arizona. PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #84

Indiana Comatose Sphagetti Dec 2012 #51

Definitely Arizona. These people have taken on Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #54

No Texas? Them's fightin' words! NoPasaran Dec 2012 #55

State of Mind in Congress Smilo Dec 2012 #57

Other: Texas. Zorra Dec 2012 #58

+1 The Wielding Truth Dec 2012 #80

Add my vote for Kansas. TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #59

ALL the Red States The River Dec 2012 #60

California 1KansasDem Dec 2012 #61

Michigan. It's becoming a Fascist dictatorship. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #63

I don't think you can point to any one state right now (so I voted OTHER) Jack Rabbit Dec 2012 #65

Make a complete list. FarPoint Dec 2012 #66

I'd say Ohio Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2012 #67

Michigan putitinD Dec 2012 #69

The state of denial that the Republican Party exists in. Fearless Dec 2012 #70

I voted SC Populist_Prole Dec 2012 #71

Any answer other than Alabama is just a grand conspiracy by the citizens of Alabama to deflect LannyDeVaney Dec 2012 #73

Michigan nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #76

I passed because it was too hard to just chose one. Little Star Dec 2012 #78

Michigan. Hands down. eom Purveyor Dec 2012 #81

Kansas isn't as bad as it seems. tridim Dec 2012 #85

Very true about MO proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #89

Texas ananda Dec 2012 #90

Other - VA williesgirl Dec 2012 #91

Michigan. Chellee Dec 2012 #93

really hard to say IMO, so pass watch the sky Dec 2012 #95

Rhode Island seems truly screwed. FarCenter Dec 2012 #96

So many contenders... moondust Dec 2012 #99

Alaska's government is kind of f'ed up Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #100

Texas - much worse than the rest Guitarzz Dec 2012 #101

I went to high school and college in Houston Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #106

in the end most of the screwed up stuff in every state is because of Republicans JI7 Dec 2012 #102

There ya go! kentauros Dec 2012 #107

People lose their jobs over religion or politics in Kansas. Keep your mouth SHUT here. SUBSIDY-Sam patrice Dec 2012 #103

How can you leave my state out? Rex Dec 2012 #104

IMHO, it changes on a random, momentary basis Mopar151 Dec 2012 #105

Um, TEXAS? Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #108

Texas - no contest. nm. AnnaLee Dec 2012 #109

Washington DC nt tama Dec 2012 #110

Mississippi seems to have the worst blend of TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #111

I vote for shithole Texas RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #114