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bvar22

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35. If the Democrats had put some Democratic Positions On-the-Table,
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:24 PM
Dec 2012

I would be more than happy to start the Horse Trading.

As it stands, the Democratic position is:
How Much do we give the Republicans?

This is a shamefully pathetic position from which to Start the Dealing
considering that the President & The Democratic Party WON a HUGE Popular Mandate in November.
The Party leadership has set the table, and any "DEAL" at this point will only benefit the Republicans.

I hate to be the guy saying this,
but we are better off at this point if the Democrats do NOTHING.
The last 60 days have been a Monumental Fuck Up by the Democratic Party Leadership.
Wasted Days & Wasted Nights.

What Obama and the Democratic Party Leadership FAILED to do over the last 2 months was to put a Democratic Party Vision for the Future
On-The-Table.

Instead, the Whole Fucking Debate is about what the Republicans want to do,
and How MUCH Obama is going to let them do.

This is NOT a "VICTORY" for a President who WON in November with a MANDATE from the People.
NOW, if Obama meets Boehner 1/2 Way to Plan B,
THAT will be touted as a WIN.

WHERE is the DEMOCRATIC PARTY VISION for The FUTURE?
THAT should have been On-the Table on Day ONE, the focus of all the TV Talking Heads and the focus of the National Dialog,
NOT Boehner and Plan B.

Things like:
*Lowering the Retirement Age to 62

*Raising the CAP

*EFCA

*Stop Federal Funds to Private Universities,
and DOUBLING or TRIPLING the funding for Public Universities

*Forgiveness of Student Loans

*Stop Subsidies to Oil Corporations

*MORE regulation of Wall Street

*EXPAND Medicare

*MASSIVE Jobs Programs, a la Republican President Dwight Eisenhower

*Medicare? allow Medicare to negotiate prices with Drug Companies

*Transaction Taxes for Stock Trades

*VAT Taxes or 15% Tariffs for Imported Manufactured Goods (like Europe)

*Fair Competition Regulations (Sherman Act)
that let Mom & Pop (small locally owned businesses) compete with WalMart
(Big Boxes) on a level playing field

*Not JUST let the Bush Tax Cuts expire, but go back to the Pre-Reagan Tax Rates

ALL that and MORE should have been put On-the-Table on DAY ONE.
THEN say to Boehner and the Republicans....
"OK. NOW lets talk compromise."

As it stands NOW,
with ONLY Losses for the Democratic Party possible in any "deal",
I say, NO DEAL,
and weep over another Missed Opportunity.

Oh what could have been.



[font color=firebrick size=3][center]"If we don't fight hard enough for the things we stand for,
at some point we have to recognize that we don't really stand for them."

--- Paul Wellstone[/font]
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depends entirely on what is in the deal. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #1
What would you approve in a deal? What would you reject? R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #8
I don't want any benefit cuts for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and veterans benefits. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #11
My baseline too. forestpath Dec 2012 #16
+1. I am more open than most DUers, but ... Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #24
Mine too. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #25
I have embraced the cliff. I eagerly anticipate the cliff. Autumn Dec 2012 #2
That's how I feel about it too. Chemisse Dec 2012 #3
My gut says... TDale313 Dec 2012 #4
Come Jan. 2nd the Republicans will have to vote against a tax cut. Eddie Haskell Dec 2012 #10
How do you get a vote to come up in the house? dkf Dec 2012 #19
What big "deal" did the Dems get in 2001? RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #5
details matter. unblock Dec 2012 #6
Depends on the deal Taverner Dec 2012 #7
What would be a deal breaker for you? R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #9
Good question Taverner Dec 2012 #12
Absolutely agree. TDale313 Dec 2012 #13
i will be happy when dhol82 Dec 2012 #14
I don't really care one way or the other. Either way, SS will be thrown under the bus. If there is forestpath Dec 2012 #15
When will those cuts occur, can you be more specific? You seem very sure. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #33
I really don't expect a deal. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #17
It depends on the deal. Chisox08 Dec 2012 #18
IT Coyotl Dec 2012 #20
omg LOL limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #32
I doubt seriously there will be a deal Aerows Dec 2012 #21
I feel like the damage has been done already ecstatic Dec 2012 #22
I disagree. Kablooie Dec 2012 #29
The system was broken long before those idiots were created. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #31
Not me. hay rick Dec 2012 #23
I'd rather see the GOP dealt with. n/t Scootaloo Dec 2012 #26
fuck the GOP Skittles Dec 2012 #27
If a deal passes, it's going to be pretty biased towards the GOP. Kablooie Dec 2012 #28
Not enough info to know what to do.... dmosh42 Dec 2012 #30
I'm not sure I want to see a deal with the 2012 democrats. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #34
If the Democrats had put some Democratic Positions On-the-Table, bvar22 Dec 2012 #35
... Fumesucker Dec 2012 #36
Depends what the deal is democrattotheend Dec 2012 #37
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