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Wounded Bear

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3. The entire US Constitution depends on people doing the right thing...

Reply to NNadir (Original post)

Thu Jan 29, 2026, 11:01 AM

Jan 29

Problem is, too many people put their own self interest above the collective good, a condition seemingly engrained into the American DNA from the start. We need more people with a sense of empathy for others and altruism toward societal needs in government.

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A Compelling Argument that the 25th Amendment Is Useless. [View all] NNadir Jan 29 OP

It's not that removal via the 25th is so difficult Fiendish Thingy Jan 29 #1

I have a good friend who attends public science meetings with me who offered, over a year ago, an extremely... NNadir Jan 29 #2

I'm an old man with opinions too Fiendish Thingy Jan 29 #6

And your point is what? NNadir Jan 29 #15

Why is Newsweek a right wing source? EdmondDantes_ Jan 29 #9

Bias checkers can themselves be biased Fiendish Thingy Jan 29 #12

Yes, but the situation in 1974 was markedly different than the situation today onenote Jan 29 #14

The entire US Constitution depends on people doing the right thing... Wounded Bear Jan 29 #3

In this case they corrupted the constitutional offices unblock Jan 29 #5

Well yes. The US Constitution was written by people imbued with the philosophical values of the "enlightenment..." NNadir Jan 29 #16

Two factors I believe have contaminated Constitutional balance most of all misanthrope Jan 29 #18

I generally agree. There is an Orwellian aspect to it, not exactly the system he predicted, but close. NNadir Jan 29 #19

Don't forget Huxley misanthrope Jan 29 #21

It was really just designed for genuine incapacitation unblock Jan 29 #4

Yes, I understand the point and fully agree. The problem is that the US Constitution, now declared... NNadir Jan 29 #13

The 25th amendment wasn't really meant for this Shrek Jan 29 #7

Correct. The standard is objective: is the president able to exercise the powers and duties of the office onenote Jan 29 #11

The 25th Amendment Was Never Designed to Remove an Unpopular President MineralMan Jan 29 #8

Section 4 of the 25th Amendment was never intended ... PBC_Democrat Jan 29 #10

So what is the solution? sarisataka Jan 29 #17

While I can state the problem, I cannot offer a corrective. I would support a rewritten Constitution but there... NNadir Jan 29 #20

That is a good analogy sarisataka Jan 29 #25

The problem with the 25th Amendment is that it must be initiated by the Vice President FakeNoose Jan 29 #22

If the United States survives intact, something I suspect is highly uncertain, we may wish to consider a system... NNadir Jan 29 #23

+1 Impeachment has become a joke leftstreet Jan 29 #24

I think JD Vance is sufficiently ambitious to be feeling out cabinet sentiment about this.... viva la Jan 29 #26

He's a big problem, evil but passably sane. I can only refer to my Christmas fantasy I posted herein: NNadir Jan 29 #27

I'll ask for that in my letter to Santa! viva la Jan 29 #28