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23. I'm somewhat a believer that the violence perpetrated against civil rights protestors

Thu Jan 29, 2026, 01:15 PM

Jan 29

...was a catalyst for change when those images appeared on tv.

I'm less of a believer that anyone should deliberately put themselves at the mercy of ignorant thugs bent on hurting them.

There are more strategic methods of protest, that can also garner the attention of the nation. We saw the power of the No Kings protest, and there's one upcoming.

I get that the government violence has been a catalyst for more opposition, but I'm less convinced that putting ourselves at their mercy is some kind of effective strategy for protest. It's one thing if you're in an organized protest action, and a more dangerous proposition of you're a lone wolf risking getting plucked up.

I don't believe many actually consider the danger, and we shouldn't be pollyanish about it.

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I'm sympathetic with folks compelled to directly confront ICE agents, but it's foolish [View all] bigtree Jan 29 OP

I invite everybody to ignore this nonsense Prairie Gates Jan 29 #1

Same... fuck that noise. n/t demmiblue Jan 29 #5

my life experience and opinion isn't nonsense bigtree Jan 29 #65

Is using a cellphone camera confrontation? leftstreet Jan 29 #2

no bigtree Jan 29 #9

The Minneapolis protests have been effective because they have been nonviolent. Ocelot II Jan 29 #18

I think that's what they want leftstreet Jan 29 #20

You completely misunderstand what's going on here! Ocelot II Jan 29 #25

Well, you could be right leftstreet Jan 29 #31

We see you Ocelot II. We know you're standing on the tip of the wedge and we appreciate you. Scrivener7 Jan 29 #32

Id gladly drive over to STL xmas74 Jan 29 #35

Classic non-violent passive resistance inspired by Ghandi & MLK thought crime Jan 30 #70

That's the actual issue. IrishAfricanAmerican Jan 29 #67

This OP is the very definition of "concern trolling" AStern Jan 29 #3

No, it's not. H2O Man Jan 29 #8

I don't agree with the OP AStern Jan 29 #13

One can disagree H2O Man Jan 29 #24

I value your opinion bigtree Jan 29 #44

Always! H2O Man Jan 29 #53

I woke up with a bug in my ass, and I made a post that I don't agree with bigtree Jan 29 #59

Right. H2O Man Jan 29 #61

it's just concern bigtree Jan 29 #15

I was referring to the content of the OP AStern Jan 29 #17

I appreciate your point of view bigtree Jan 29 #26

Should know better than to protest fascism? No. The goons will do what they will do. Scrivener7 Jan 29 #33

Nobody feels particularly brave - and sometimes we're just out protesting on street corners in small groups Ocelot II Jan 29 #41

I imagine it isn't what runs through your mind. But as you have said below, Scrivener7 Jan 29 #45

AND, I HAVE to add: it's having an effect. Without Minnesotans standing for what's right, Scrivener7 Jan 29 #49

The louder the protests get, the more it will occur I think Torchlight Jan 29 #28

Well said. Scrivener7 Jan 29 #34

John Lewis isn't remembered because he stayed home instead of getting his head cracked EdmondDantes_ Jan 29 #4

I get that bigtree Jan 29 #16

Sometimes life doesn't leave you the choice EdmondDantes_ Jan 29 #38

Edmond, respectfully bigtree Jan 29 #47

The Neville Chamberlain strategy never works. gab13by13 Jan 29 #6

Many people have been trained by local groups in nonviolent direct action techniques. Ocelot II Jan 29 #7

Seriously, who sees the brilliant organizing of the people of Minneapolis and says "Better if you stay home"??? Prairie Gates Jan 29 #12

Direct confrontation can take many forms Fiendish Thingy Jan 29 #10

I don't think we're at the stage where we need to sacrifice ourselves bigtree Jan 29 #19

I'm not promoting sacrificing one's life Fiendish Thingy Jan 29 #42

I think you're right about that bigtree Jan 29 #48

You have a point. It's gotten way too dangerous. leftyladyfrommo Jan 29 #11

As a 76 year old geezer I agree with the sentiment but without those individuals who just aren't going to take NoMoreRepugs Jan 29 #14

I'm one of those geezers, too. Ocelot II Jan 29 #21

That's an important distinction leftstreet Jan 29 #36

I'm somewhat a believer that the violence perpetrated against civil rights protestors bigtree Jan 29 #23

Thousands of us have been trained in nonviolent direct action techniques. Ocelot II Jan 29 #29

People need to peaceful protest. Sad part is bluestarone Jan 29 #22

Minnesota protesters aren't doing anything like what you describe yourself doing. Scrivener7 Jan 29 #27

Wavy Gravy. . . . 🔥 😍 that's dope MagickMuffin Jan 29 #30

I think it was '76 bigtree Jan 29 #39

(a) it makes a difference if you were protesting the '76 Ford White House, or the '78 Carter White House muriel_volestrangler Jan 30 #73

well, you projected quite a lot there as you zoomed past my point bigtree Jan 30 #75

Be Careful Out There OC375 Jan 29 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 29 #66

People want to feel like they are being courageous and caring gulliver Jan 29 #40

Oh, FFS! We aren't doing it so we can feel courageous and caring. Ocelot II Jan 29 #50

OMG Cirsium Jan 29 #54

Jesus H. What a disgusting take. Scrivener7 Jan 29 #55

Quite the assertions Torchlight Jan 29 #60

It's only very likely causation gulliver Jan 29 #63

Well, You're Getting a Lot of Blowback on This One. MineralMan Jan 29 #43

big tree WillowCreek Jan 29 #46

that's projecting something I haven't said bigtree Jan 29 #51

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Jan 30 #74

"wait for the midterms" is one approach - TBF Jan 29 #52

you seem to misunderstand bigtree Jan 29 #56

I don get why anyone would think you're "telling" people.... electric_blue68 Jan 30 #69

You have this on a repeating loop? NoRethugFriends Jan 29 #57

listen bigtree Jan 29 #58

I agree with the OP 100% calguy Jan 29 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 29 #64

"Stay the fuck back, out of their reach." KS Toronado Jan 29 #68

Believe me, folks know exactly what they're risking when they confront ICE to save their neighbors. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 30 #71

I have two adult sons bigtree Jan 30 #72

Some were saying that during the Civil Rights Movement. When ICE and the DOJ views taking picture of ICE abuses lostincalifornia Jan 30 #76

of course I haven't said the protestors are the problem, or people taking pictures bigtree Jan 30 #77

I THANK GOD for the protesters AND the 'observers' who have more physical courage Jack Valentino Jan 30 #78