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babylonsister

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42. I remember this happening, so

Thu Jan 29, 2026, 10:38 PM

Jan 29

that must make me an Average Older Gal. I also remember how angry this consolidation made me. And how I abhorred 'the blivet' for starting a war.

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I did not know this and I'll bet you don't either -- WE NEED TO KNOW THIS ABOUT DHS [View all] AverageOldGuy Jan 29 OP

The USA patriot act UpInArms Jan 29 #1

I remember when they started it saying it was privacy in the terlet. twodogsbarking Jan 29 #8

Same. Alliepoo Jan 30 #47

Yup. Alex Jones HATED IT till about mmmmm...2017 lol. Volaris Jan 30 #58

Yup debsy Jan 29 #12

This 👆🏼 UpInArms Jan 29 #17

I was offended by the Nazi type name itself IbogaProject Jan 29 #27

Yep. More of that isolationist stuff. Amaryllis Jan 29 #34

I remember it well. Many warnings from those with the foresight to see the implications. Amaryllis Jan 29 #33

Yep. I remember sitting with my extended family arguing about the obvious ramifications. harumph Jan 30 #50

Olbermann was railing about it nightly. Ferrets are Cool Jan 30 #52

Yeah, I lost friends over that. malthaussen Jan 30 #59

It was written BEFORE 9/11 TexasBushwhacker Jan 29 #16

True debsy Jan 29 #18

They wrote it and made certain to implement it UpInArms Jan 29 #19

I was gonna say......... popsdenver Jan 29 #36

The OPs surprise at these origins makes me feel old Random Boomer Jan 30 #45

They borrowed Homeland fron das Heimatland thomski64 Jan 30 #51

It was said at the time that homeland security was not a good thing. People were horrified by 9-11 so it came about. Srkdqltr Jan 29 #2

All by design SRK popsdenver Jan 29 #37

Of course. We also went to war with the wrong country. Twice. Not too bright. Srkdqltr Jan 29 #40

Great for popsdenver Jan 29 #43

The title "Homeland" was an intentional embrace of ethnic nationalism and white supremacy. pat_k Jan 29 #3

Truth! yellow dahlia Jan 29 #29

Didn't Hitler call his country his Homeland? Weren't the bushes nazis? Clouds Passing Jan 29 #4

Prescott Bush was in with the nazis debsy Jan 29 #20

And obviously his legacies have followed in his footsteps. Clouds Passing Jan 29 #28

Homeland Security. Passed by the Senate 90 to 9 progressoid Jan 29 #5

I called it the "KGWB"* when it was proposed and set up. lastlib Jan 29 #6

Fatherland 2na fisherman Jan 29 #7

9/11 Insanity. Iggo Jan 29 #9

Germany was the Fatherland, Russia was the Motherland, so those were taken... Wounded Bear Jan 29 #10

Um yeah, I remember this well. It was a big deal at the time. themaguffin Jan 29 #11

When Nixon's white house guards wore helmets Captain Zero Jan 29 #44

I remember when it was created. I thought at the time and still do, that it sounded like a Russian department name. n/t aggiesal Jan 29 #13

Bush fucked that up. I remember when they created it I thought it live love laugh Jan 29 #14

Check into PNAC, the Project for a New American Century CoopersDad Jan 29 #15

The first year that the Coast Guard was moved to DHS I had a chance to talk with a Coast Guard officer Hope22 Jan 29 #21

Your illustration shows how clear this was at all levels, except the ones behind it. yellow dahlia Jan 29 #31

Senator Russ Feingold of WI was the sole Nay in the Senate. Harker Jan 29 #22

Repeal the Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act Blue Full Moon Jan 29 #23

Part of yhe reason it was consolidated from many departments Buddyzbuddy Jan 29 #24

Now you know why Rep Marie Gluesenkamp Perez D-WA3 DinahMoeHum Jan 29 #25

DHS is analogous to other country's... reACTIONary Jan 29 #26

Actually, I did know this. niyad Jan 29 #30

Yeah BaronChocula Jan 29 #38

As a US Coast Guard retiree, I agree. I have so many stories about how things changed for the worse after we were taken LT Barclay Jan 29 #32

Bush (the lesser) rolled all LEO into Homeland because "they can not communicate effectively seperated LiberalArkie Jan 29 #35

And it transformed into the American SS Gestapo . republianmushroom Jan 29 #39

Yea, some of us remember this. ms liberty Jan 29 #41

I remember this happening, so babylonsister Jan 29 #42

It was part of the Patriot Act Figarosmom Jan 30 #46

I commented to a friend at the time, "oh look, we just got our own Ministry of Truth". nt Javaman Jan 30 #48

Anyone who was a fed back then (like myself) BumRushDaShow Jan 30 #49

I remember at the time Mme. Defarge Jan 30 #53

The smirking chimp put FEMA under DHS too...making it much less efficient at response. CousinIT Jan 30 #54

DURec leftstreet Jan 30 #55

Didn't W put Cheney in charge of it all? stollen Jan 30 #56

Secret Service does big events such as summits and the like dsc Jan 30 #57

Some of us knew that at the time. Ms. Toad Jan 30 #60

I knew this. Like many others i hated it being called HOMELAND... I was against the whole thing... liberalla Jan 30 #61

Yep...I remeber when the "unpatriot act" was passed.... sdfernando Jan 30 #62