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Bluetus

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28. It is probably good legal advice for a routine traffic stop, but it will not work with ICE

Sat Jan 31, 2026, 10:29 PM

6 hrs ago

I hope you are not suggesting this will somehow cause ICE to behave differently.

My advice (I'm not a lawyer) is to immediately call 911 just as soon as you feel threatened. You want your voice recorded on the 911 systems. Clearly tell the 911 operator that you are being assaulted by an unidentified person wearing a mask and threatening you with a gun, and please send an officer immediately. And follow the instructions that the 911 operator gives you. Chances are good that if ICE knows they might themselves be arrested, they will move on before the police arrive.

Understand that in every state AFAIK, assault does not require any physical contact. Assault can include threatening behavior. If you live in a state that Trump is attacking, you may get police to respond. If you live in Texas or someplace like that, I doubt that the police will help, but at least you will have your part of the story on record, which could be helpful if it goes to trial.

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If Cops Demand Your Window Down, DO THIS... [View all] Joinfortmill 17 hrs ago OP

What worries me is that these roid-raging thugs will interpret someone getting out as a threat-- viva la 17 hrs ago #1

You only get out if they tell you to nt EX500rider 16 hrs ago #6

Seldom do I watch YouTube's because they take too long to get to the point..but this was outstanding, easy to watch and Ninga 16 hrs ago #2

Here is a little bit different take on this... NowsTheTime 16 hrs ago #3

Transcript. If you can't copy and paste or print out a video. usonian 15 hrs ago #13

really good information Roc2020 16 hrs ago #4

not necessarily good information cab67 16 hrs ago #5

Basically stay in the car with window down & hands in sight unless told to exit EX500rider 16 hrs ago #7

When ordered to get out of your car, lock the door behind you. It becomes another 4th Amendment blockade and the cops OMGWTF 15 hrs ago #14

If they don't have permission or probable cause EX500rider 13 hrs ago #19

It looks like an advertisement. I say situational awareness is the first rule of self defense. littlemissmartypants 16 hrs ago #8

In what neighborhood? Cirsium 15 hrs ago #9

+1 leftstreet 13 hrs ago #20

Would be nice to have a written list of do's and don't's . . . AverageOldGuy 15 hrs ago #10

Here you go. Jedi Guy 12 hrs ago #21

I used to get a lot of reels about how people act when a cop pulls them over, or otherwise approaches them. mucholderthandirt 9 hrs ago #24

To the best of my knowledge, ICE aren't cops in the way we normally think of them. Jedi Guy 34 min ago #34

If you rolled your window, can they just reach in and unlock the car? question everything 3 hrs ago #31

They could, yes. Jedi Guy 44 min ago #33

Good luck rolling the window up & locking the door ...instead simply state that "I do not concent to any searches" NowsTheTime 15 hrs ago #11

Yes, You start rolling up your windows before getting out..... Zackzzzz 14 hrs ago #18

Transcript, in case you can'r memorize videos. usonian 15 hrs ago #12

So we should assume they won't prevent us from closing the door? Raven123 15 hrs ago #15

Can't they just unlock the door Mossfern 15 hrs ago #16

The exception to everything he said.... Staph 15 hrs ago #17

Also bad advice in my opinion EX500rider 10 hrs ago #23

I live in a rural area where the closest populated area might be 10 miles away. MichMan 6 hrs ago #26

I haven't forgotten the murder of Cara Knott by on-duty CHP Craig Peyer in 1986 chia 6 hrs ago #27

I don't find it very good advice in my opinion EX500rider 10 hrs ago #22

I liked Chris Rock's video better Polybius 6 hrs ago #25

That's a good one! 👍nt Raine 1 hr ago #32

It is probably good legal advice for a routine traffic stop, but it will not work with ICE Bluetus 6 hrs ago #28

"Understand that in every state AFAIK, assault does not require any physical contact." MichMan 5 hrs ago #29

That is the law. But the difference is the police don't get to decide that. Bluetus 4 hrs ago #30