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Bluetus

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30. That is the law. But the difference is the police don't get to decide that.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 11:45 PM
3 hrs ago

That is why we have courts. Right now, ICE is acting as judge, jury, and quite literally, executioner.

Put the two ICE agents who executed Pretti (still unnamed but on administrative leave) on trial. Let the jury decide if Pretti, who was subdued on the ground with his gun removed was a threat to the agents. I guarantee you that the jury will find that it was the agents who were threatening. But go ahead and defend ICE with your hypotheticals. I will continue to call for a trial to decide this.

While you are at it, tell us why you don't think ICE should identify the executioners.

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What worries me is that these roid-raging thugs will interpret someone getting out as a threat-- viva la 15 hrs ago #1
You only get out if they tell you to nt EX500rider 14 hrs ago #6
Seldom do I watch YouTube's because they take too long to get to the point..but this was outstanding, easy to watch and Ninga 15 hrs ago #2
Here is a little bit different take on this... NowsTheTime 15 hrs ago #3
Transcript. If you can't copy and paste or print out a video. usonian 14 hrs ago #13
really good information Roc2020 15 hrs ago #4
not necessarily good information cab67 15 hrs ago #5
Basically stay in the car with window down & hands in sight unless told to exit EX500rider 14 hrs ago #7
When ordered to get out of your car, lock the door behind you. It becomes another 4th Amendment blockade and the cops OMGWTF 14 hrs ago #14
If they don't have permission or probable cause EX500rider 11 hrs ago #19
It looks like an advertisement. I say situational awareness is the first rule of self defense. littlemissmartypants 14 hrs ago #8
In what neighborhood? Cirsium 14 hrs ago #9
+1 leftstreet 11 hrs ago #20
Would be nice to have a written list of do's and don't's . . . AverageOldGuy 14 hrs ago #10
Here you go. Jedi Guy 11 hrs ago #21
I used to get a lot of reels about how people act when a cop pulls them over, or otherwise approaches them. mucholderthandirt 8 hrs ago #24
If you rolled your window, can they just reach in and unlock the car? question everything 2 hrs ago #31
Good luck rolling the window up & locking the door ...instead simply state that "I do not concent to any searches" NowsTheTime 14 hrs ago #11
Yes, You start rolling up your windows before getting out..... Zackzzzz 13 hrs ago #18
Transcript, in case you can'r memorize videos. usonian 14 hrs ago #12
So we should assume they won't prevent us from closing the door? Raven123 13 hrs ago #15
Can't they just unlock the door Mossfern 13 hrs ago #16
The exception to everything he said.... Staph 13 hrs ago #17
Also bad advice in my opinion EX500rider 9 hrs ago #23
I live in a rural area where the closest populated area might be 10 miles away. MichMan 5 hrs ago #26
I haven't forgotten the murder of Cara Knott by on-duty CHP Craig Peyer in 1986 chia 5 hrs ago #27
I don't find it very good advice in my opinion EX500rider 9 hrs ago #22
I liked Chris Rock's video better Polybius 5 hrs ago #25
That's a good one! 👍nt Raine 16 min ago #32
It is probably good legal advice for a routine traffic stop, but it will not work with ICE Bluetus 4 hrs ago #28
"Understand that in every state AFAIK, assault does not require any physical contact." MichMan 4 hrs ago #29
That is the law. But the difference is the police don't get to decide that. Bluetus 3 hrs ago #30
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