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Bluetus

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40. I never said that

Sun Feb 1, 2026, 10:59 AM

6 hrs ago

A) The Philadelphia DA and Sheriff very definitely are talking about arresting ICE agents.

B) What I said was, "Chances are good that if ICE knows they might themselves be arrested, they will move on before the police arrive."

I don't know what is complicated about anything I have said here. I repeat:

1) Assault is a crime.
2) AFAIK, in every state, it can be assault if a person simply acts in a threatening way and if the ICE agents have a prior record, this can be upgraded to a felony in most states, without them even touching you.
3) If one feels threatened when ICE are nearby, call 911 and get your words, and hopefully ICE words, on record. If the ICE goons understand the real police may be coming, chances are they will clear out rather than continuing the assault.

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If Cops Demand Your Window Down, DO THIS... [View all] Joinfortmill Yesterday OP

What worries me is that these roid-raging thugs will interpret someone getting out as a threat-- viva la Yesterday #1

You only get out if they tell you to nt EX500rider Yesterday #6

Seldom do I watch YouTube's because they take too long to get to the point..but this was outstanding, easy to watch and Ninga Yesterday #2

Here is a little bit different take on this... NowsTheTime Yesterday #3

Transcript. If you can't copy and paste or print out a video. usonian Yesterday #13

really good information Roc2020 Yesterday #4

not necessarily good information cab67 Yesterday #5

Basically stay in the car with window down & hands in sight unless told to exit EX500rider Yesterday #7

When ordered to get out of your car, lock the door behind you. It becomes another 4th Amendment blockade and the cops OMGWTF Yesterday #14

If they don't have permission or probable cause EX500rider Yesterday #19

If they can make up any reason to arrest you Cerulean Southpaw 8 hrs ago #36

Yeah, if I haven't had any dopers in my car, I don't see any reason for not letting them search it RandomNumbers 6 hrs ago #41

It looks like an advertisement. I say situational awareness is the first rule of self defense. littlemissmartypants Yesterday #8

In what neighborhood? Cirsium Yesterday #9

+1 leftstreet Yesterday #20

Would be nice to have a written list of do's and don't's . . . AverageOldGuy Yesterday #10

Here you go. Jedi Guy Yesterday #21

I used to get a lot of reels about how people act when a cop pulls them over, or otherwise approaches them. mucholderthandirt 21 hrs ago #24

To the best of my knowledge, ICE aren't cops in the way we normally think of them. Jedi Guy 13 hrs ago #34

If you rolled your window, can they just reach in and unlock the car? question everything 16 hrs ago #31

They could, yes. Jedi Guy 13 hrs ago #33

Question - if it's likely a traffic stop, why not just roll down the window before they even walk up? RandomNumbers 5 hrs ago #43

"if it's likely a traffic stop, why not just roll down the window before they even walk up?" Jedi Guy 3 hrs ago #48

Oh, common sense Fla_Democrat 5 hrs ago #44

"Common sense is a flower that doesn't grow in everyone's garden." Jedi Guy 3 hrs ago #47

Good luck rolling the window up & locking the door ...instead simply state that "I do not concent to any searches" NowsTheTime Yesterday #11

Yes, You start rolling up your windows before getting out..... Zackzzzz Yesterday #18

Transcript, in case you can'r memorize videos. usonian Yesterday #12

So we should assume they won't prevent us from closing the door? Raven123 Yesterday #15

Can't they just unlock the door Mossfern Yesterday #16

The exception to everything he said.... Staph Yesterday #17

Also bad advice in my opinion EX500rider 23 hrs ago #23

I live in a rural area where the closest populated area might be 10 miles away. MichMan 19 hrs ago #26

I haven't forgotten the murder of Cara Knott by on-duty CHP Craig Peyer in 1986 chia 19 hrs ago #27

I don't find it very good advice in my opinion EX500rider 23 hrs ago #22

I liked Chris Rock's video better Polybius 19 hrs ago #25

That's a good one! 👍nt Raine 14 hrs ago #32

It is probably good legal advice for a routine traffic stop, but it will not work with ICE Bluetus 18 hrs ago #28

"Understand that in every state AFAIK, assault does not require any physical contact." MichMan 18 hrs ago #29

That is the law. But the difference is the police don't get to decide that. Bluetus 17 hrs ago #30

I was merely responding to your hypothetical with another one MichMan 7 hrs ago #37

It is not a hypothetical Bluetus 7 hrs ago #38

OK MichMan 7 hrs ago #39

I never said that Bluetus 6 hrs ago #40

Several elected officials have talked about arresting ICE agents "If they break laws" MichMan 5 hrs ago #42

I have already identified the laws for you. There are many others Bluetus 5 hrs ago #45

I guess we just disagree MichMan 5 hrs ago #46

Won't happen in reality. RandiFan1290 9 hrs ago #35