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In reply to the discussion: If Cops Demand Your Window Down, DO THIS... [View all]Jedi Guy
(3,442 posts)48. "if it's likely a traffic stop, why not just roll down the window before they even walk up?"
You can, sure. Nothing wrong with doing it that way. I usually wait until they reach the window so they don't wonder if I'm waiting to take a shot at them. As I said, cops are generally very wary on traffic stops.
I presumed they were running my plate, and finding out that I'm probably clean. Is that process faster these days?
It can be if the patrol vehicle is equipped with an automatic plate scanner. If not, the officer has to either use the MTC (mobile tactical computer) to search the DMV records or, if they're lazy, ask the dispatcher to do it. I ran a lot of plates during my time because no one works harder for their money than they absolutely must, cops included. I ended up just doing it automatically when they called out the plate to check themselves out on a traffic stop since I knew they were likely going to ask anyway.
It always mystifies me when people act like total jackwagons on traffic stops and then become bewildered when it makes their situation worse. Deliberately antagonizing people is a pretty stupid strategy.
During my dispatcher days I'd ride along with some of the cops I was friendly with. One of them had a rule that his rider got to decide whether he issued a warning or a citation on normal traffic stops. He pulled over this lady in a gigantic Mercedes SUV, got out, talked to her for five or ten minutes, then came back to the patrol car. He sat down, grabbed his citation book, and started writing ticket after ticket. I asked him what happened to the rule and without missing a beat he replied, "This lady is an asshole so I'm nailing her with every ticket I possibly can."
On another occasion, a different officer I was friends with (Officer Payne, no kidding) pulled over a guy going double the speed limit on a city street. He let the guy go with a warning because he didn't act like a jackwagon.
The energy you put out is very often the energy you get back, as it turns out.
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What worries me is that these roid-raging thugs will interpret someone getting out as a threat--
viva la
Yesterday
#1
Seldom do I watch YouTube's because they take too long to get to the point..but this was outstanding, easy to watch and
Ninga
Yesterday
#2
Basically stay in the car with window down & hands in sight unless told to exit
EX500rider
Yesterday
#7
When ordered to get out of your car, lock the door behind you. It becomes another 4th Amendment blockade and the cops
OMGWTF
Yesterday
#14
Yeah, if I haven't had any dopers in my car, I don't see any reason for not letting them search it
RandomNumbers
9 hrs ago
#41
It looks like an advertisement. I say situational awareness is the first rule of self defense.
littlemissmartypants
Yesterday
#8
I used to get a lot of reels about how people act when a cop pulls them over, or otherwise approaches them.
mucholderthandirt
Yesterday
#24
To the best of my knowledge, ICE aren't cops in the way we normally think of them.
Jedi Guy
16 hrs ago
#34
If you rolled your window, can they just reach in and unlock the car?
question everything
20 hrs ago
#31
Question - if it's likely a traffic stop, why not just roll down the window before they even walk up?
RandomNumbers
9 hrs ago
#43
"if it's likely a traffic stop, why not just roll down the window before they even walk up?"
Jedi Guy
7 hrs ago
#48
Good luck rolling the window up & locking the door ...instead simply state that "I do not concent to any searches"
NowsTheTime
Yesterday
#11
I live in a rural area where the closest populated area might be 10 miles away.
MichMan
23 hrs ago
#26
It is probably good legal advice for a routine traffic stop, but it will not work with ICE
Bluetus
22 hrs ago
#28
"Understand that in every state AFAIK, assault does not require any physical contact."
MichMan
21 hrs ago
#29
Several elected officials have talked about arresting ICE agents "If they break laws"
MichMan
9 hrs ago
#42