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renate

(13,776 posts)
7. very well written!
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 06:23 PM
Dec 2012

I think the $250,000 number was probably chosen because some of the families who are not in the 2% themselves may reasonably aspire to that level of income for themselves or their kids. (That's an enormous number for an individual but for a two-income family who's in the right part of the country and especially in the right fields of employment, two six-figure incomes might not be completely out of reach, especially in the long term. And again, parents making $25K a year might have aspirations for their children.)

And with regard to sending two kids to college at $30K a year each--there was a time not that long ago when a middle-class family could send two kids to college simultaneously without anybody having to go into crushing debt. So that particular benchmark of "rich" still feels like a middle-class thing to me. Of course, now it really is out of the reach of anybody but the very well off, but still, I think that might explain why people with that ability can still honestly feel that it's not part of the definition of rich.

You wrote a thought-provoking post; I wonder whether feeling rich has more to do with the safety net or financial cushion a person has than with the house they live in or the car they drive. My family's income has vacillated wildly over the past few years (all the way down to zero for a long time after the crash of 2008) and since we didn't move or buy new cars (or do anything different) during the ups, our material condition has stayed exactly the same (or worse, since the cars just keep getting older); the real and crucial difference between the ups and the downs was whether we had a financial cushion. That's what makes it possible to take a deep breath and feel at least at ease, if not rich. People who are earning $250,000 a year and spending all of it probably genuinely do not feel rich. That's due to their own choices, of course, and their life is a world away from that of someone who doesn't feel rich because they don't have a house or a car. But if they're locked into excessive mortgage payments and car payments they might feel just as stuck as a person whose payments and income are both lower. (Personally, I think that anybody in the former position has made short-sighted choices. But I'm just talking about the definition of "feeling rich," not of "being sensible.&quot

Anyway, very well written as always, Tom!

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WTF? Since when does sitting on the two yard line place you in the middle of the field? MADem Dec 2012 #1
Since George W. Bush was born on third base and the "liberally-biased media" zbdent Dec 2012 #4
Actually his father was born there before him n/t Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #5
Thanks. I usually don't do football analogies... Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #14
I normally am not a real fan of 'em either--but yours was a GEM! MADem Dec 2012 #15
For historical perspective, in 1955 there were 24 tax brackets. Adjusting for inflation... JHB Dec 2012 #2
*Cough* They SIMPLIFIED the tax code. It's GOOD to make things simpler. Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #3
We almost had that back at the end of Reagan JHB Dec 2012 #16
Excellent point. 98th percentile is NOT "middle class" - downandoutnow Dec 2012 #6
"Solidarity forever". Had that been true most of us would be a lot better off. Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #18
very well written! renate Dec 2012 #7
There's an old fashioned term; "Well to do" (or "well off" for a less archaic alternative). Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #10
k/r limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #8
Middle class =/= middle income. Igel Dec 2012 #9
Those are all good and fair questions, I agree Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #11
If 50K is the "true" middle, and we accept that people SoCalDem Dec 2012 #12
Currently "middle class" in America is defined from full time hours at minimum wage TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #13
The term "middle class" is distorted the same way the term "small business" is distorted Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #17
One kick in remembrence of prior Democratic Party campaign pledges. n/t Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #19
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