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Oilwellian

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46. Will, you left one small detail out

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:12 PM

Dec 2012

Today has been quite exciting, hasn't it? This morning we see Obama on MTP, tell the American people he was willing to make cuts to SS. This afternoon, we see Republicans claiming to have saved SS from the chopping block. Boehner is refusing to bring Obama's proposals to a vote! What a masterful negotiation!

PS: Don't ask Manny for that dinner, yet. Let's see what happens when Republicans dangle the debt ceiling chip.

Democrats had signaled some willingness to entertain the chained CPI, but only with other concessions from the GOP, such as giving President Barack Obama the power to raise the nation's debt limit.

"The idea was if you are going to do debt ceiling, you would then do chained CPI," the Democratic aide said, speaking anonymously because talks are ongoing and extremely sensitive. "They can only ask us to make that concession in that pairing. We are not going to do anything with chained CPI now [without a debt ceiling deal]. That's a poison pill."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/30/fiscal-cliff_n_2384726.html

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Chained CPI off the table. [View all] WilliamPitt Dec 2012 OP

I am so happy it is Taverner Dec 2012 #1

It was McConnell who made the attempt at this. Skidmore Dec 2012 #11

ok, but the President still OK'd it as part of the deal 10 days ago pasto76 Dec 2012 #28

It was McConnell who tried to put it on the table today. Skidmore Dec 2012 #41

It is still on the table, folks, to not think so is to be naive. grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #79

The GOPers won't try that again! leftstreet Dec 2012 #2

Worth repeating - the only way it was on the table is with tax changes bhikkhu Dec 2012 #3

^^^^ This. MH1 Dec 2012 #39

Do you have a link with specific numbers? MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #53

Specific numbers like 22%?...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #62

And why is 22% significant to you? nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #103

I wish I did, but there have been no leaks on specifics bhikkhu Dec 2012 #117

That's not what he said - you got a link? grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #77

From the WH - bhikkhu Dec 2012 #116

mh hmmmm mmmhhm mmm Ellipsis Dec 2012 #4

It was taken off DevonRex Dec 2012 #5

YEP Rex Dec 2012 #20

Link?????????????????????????? grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #82

What to greedy and shallow people? Rex Dec 2012 #87

Yep. That's what I posted days ago. A proposal rejected is a proposal no more. That proposal Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #96

hey! how was Christmas? dionysus Dec 2012 #112

it's coming....hold on. spanone Dec 2012 #6

It is off the table until the buzzroller Dec 2012 #7

Look Reid said no part f shrt term deal and at this time. daa Dec 2012 #32

I said buzzroller Dec 2012 #35

Yep, but the new discussion will not be chained CPI. It will plethoro Dec 2012 #51

You Can't Prove It!!! Once On The Table Always on The Table!! Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah!!!!! Skraxx Dec 2012 #8

I applaud your satire and parody pasto76 Dec 2012 #29

I can guarantee it will go back on the table later. leveymg Dec 2012 #9

Let's hope the Republicans refuse it again leftstreet Dec 2012 #13

The notion was by both sides of the Catfood Commish, which Obama created - goes back to Clinton era leveymg Dec 2012 #24

Here is the link. I'm glad those fucking republicans agreed Autumn Dec 2012 #10

What deal do Dems think it IS appropriate for? nt NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #88

God I don't have a fucking clue. Maybe the next deal they Autumn Dec 2012 #92

Based on comments by Obama, Pelosi and Reid... NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #95

Oh yeah for sure, here is a link to what Reid has to say Autumn Dec 2012 #99

Seems plainly evident to me as well. nt NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #100

Maybe as soon as we all shut up and forget about it. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #121

I'm not about to forget, not going to forgive either Autumn Jan 2013 #122

Don't tell the Emo Progs! They will have an Emo Letdown! banned from Kos Dec 2012 #12

I wonder what Manny will have to say about this!?! Rex Dec 2012 #22

He'll want a link Hekate Dec 2012 #67

I'm guessing he'd say it shouldn't have been on the table Chef Eric Dec 2012 #94

Okay, I'm seeing this all over and I don't know what it means tavalon Dec 2012 #85

I had to look it up, so I'll share. Made me laugh -- sounds just like home! Hekate Dec 2012 #108

So Obama didn't cave as so many were predicting. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #14

Seems like the republicans caved. Autumn Dec 2012 #18

So I guess we should thanks them ... yes? JoePhilly Dec 2012 #19

gee, I guess the whacky far left has something in common with the whacky far right banned from Kos Dec 2012 #31

Fuck them. I'm not giving those pukes any thanks. Autumn Dec 2012 #36

brave DUers like Manny foiled his evil plot!11!1 dionysus Dec 2012 #110

lol!! JoePhilly Dec 2012 #120

and perhaps that's because shanti Dec 2012 #83

For Now democrattotheend Dec 2012 #15

So far, I've seen senior citizens blamed... greatauntoftriplets Dec 2012 #16

Amazing, isn't it. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #21

That's one appropriate term. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2012 #25

Yeah Brokaw claimed they want to bankrupt their kids on MSNBC Liberalynn Dec 2012 #97

But this is what Marco Rubio just tweeted buzzroller Dec 2012 #17

Rubio quoted as credible source on DU. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #23

You missed the point buzzroller Dec 2012 #26

I am not saying he is being truthful, just that he is trying to pin buzzroller Dec 2012 #27

who gives a shit what they're trying to do. the people don't buy their shit. spanone Dec 2012 #65

Yet Lindsey Graham was talking about it this morning.. bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #30

Well...OK. bringing in rubio tweets to DU is about as scumbag as it gets. tjwash Dec 2012 #37

It makes little sense to me to say buzzroller Dec 2012 #45

I get what you're saying.. I posted this tweet earlier.. Cha Dec 2012 #49

Thanks buzzroller Dec 2012 #63

This is nothing but a reprieve. Obama has made it clear he's determined to cut SS. forestpath Dec 2012 #33

The apocolypse currently scheduled for today has been moved to a later date tjwash Dec 2012 #40

Glad you think it's so funny. Personally, I prefer to live in reality and go by what Obama forestpath Dec 2012 #43

Gosh, some would constitute reality as what is actually DONE. 11 Bravo Dec 2012 #55

Reality exists in WORDS and actions. At least, in the real world. grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #84

No he's not going to cut SS Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2012 #44

And Obama said his position on SS was similar to Romney's. So there ya go. forestpath Dec 2012 #75

No Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2012 #109

uh huh ecstatic Dec 2012 #106

if you keep believing it, maybe it will come true! dionysus Dec 2012 #111

I like DU and all, but man... CheapShotArtist Dec 2012 #34

Thanks for your post, CheapShotArtist.. Cha Dec 2012 #50

@CheapShotArtist serbbral Dec 2012 #113

And the Tootsies will get a week off Panasonic Dec 2012 #38

Thank you will. I usually have a nice day. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #42

Will, you left one small detail out Oilwellian Dec 2012 #46

But ... SELLOUT ... wait ... CORPORATE SHILL ... umm ... REPUBLICAN LITE ... 11 Bravo Dec 2012 #47

Liar, Reagan Democrat, corporatist, CheapShotArtist Dec 2012 #52

Evil! Evil, I say! Hekate Dec 2012 #69

How is it not evil to fund war with the elderly's food money? grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #86

President Obama is not doing that, is he? Hekate Dec 2012 #105

ON again...Off again...On again...Off again. bvar22 Dec 2012 #48

Reid said it's off the table for any "short term fix". We all know it will be back. nt NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #54

And, who do you think will insist on putting it back in future jaysunb Dec 2012 #56

My guess is that it has already been agreed to, NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #64

which is meaningless, since it never should have been on the table stupidicus Dec 2012 #57

It's meanlingless to you.. but, you're Cha Dec 2012 #61

I'm not at the meal for the homeless either stupidicus Dec 2012 #68

Yeah, keep mumbling about "buffalo chips" while Cha Dec 2012 #70

thanks for tacitly conceding the validity of my remarks stupidicus Dec 2012 #101

I hope you're never in a situation where you have to reason with a psycho ecstatic Dec 2012 #107

then by all means stupidicus Dec 2012 #114

KnR. What. A. Surprise. Color me gobsmacked! Hekate Dec 2012 #58

told you so..... spanone Dec 2012 #59

Speculative outrage is the best outrage... SidDithers Dec 2012 #60

The next 29 hours are going to be hell. Cleita Dec 2012 #66

At DU, anyway. Hekate Dec 2012 #71

There's just no pleasing some people. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #72

Ok. Is it time for the next preemptive outrage now? great white snark Dec 2012 #73

Good. Now let's go over the "cliff". Owl Dec 2012 #74

The GOPers blinked. DCBob Dec 2012 #76

I am sick of the Think Tank apologists. Time to talk about the real issues. grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #78

We need to realize that we have to keep fighting kansasobama Dec 2012 #80

Unfortunately, since I am a nightshifter, tavalon Dec 2012 #81

I will believe when Congress votes to raise taxes on the wealthy. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #89

Yeah, BHO could never have dreamed that either Simpson or Bowles would suggest cutting indepat Dec 2012 #90

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #91

It had better fucking be off the table. JEB Dec 2012 #93

he heaven05 Dec 2012 #98

Has Jane Hamshire and/or her fan club mzmolly Dec 2012 #102

I know, Obama's offers are always insincere negotiation ploys. yada yada yada Vattel Dec 2012 #104

you people need to grow and take a civics lesson liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #115

Pres Obama: David, in pursuit of strengthening SS, I'm willing to cut SS benefits eridani Dec 2012 #118

Here's what Harry has to say Autumn Dec 2012 #119