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Showing Original Post only (View all)The Journal News has hurt any hope for gun reform. [View all]
MadHound put a post up that should make us think about the damage that The Journal News has done.
You can read it at http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2096787
If you do go to read it I want you to think about what he is saying. Many have yet to see it.
This is my post in that thread, remember this is written by a person that does not own a gun and is very pro gun control reform. I was thinking I should have rewrote it, but it says everything already.
How many, after what The Journal News did, is looking at the same thing? The law does not make people in certain places register their guns if they have been acquired as MadHound has his. How many will now not do so, even if the law is changed, due to this type of attack?
We post register sex offenders, people who have broken the law, in this manner. We are now treating Law Abiding Citizens the same way? That is a BAD precedent.
Now let us look at this from the propaganda way. The NRA will use this stupidity on the side of THAT PAPER to strengthen their weak arguments (plural). Remember how the Bush administration used 9-11 as the answer for everything? Well here is the NRA's 9-11 answer! And do you really think the teaparty will let grass grow under their feet on this? Our side will take a pounding on this. The fight for better gun control has now hit a big problem, we just don't know how big at this time.
And let's take this to the nightmare point. How many gun sales will now be under the table due to people not wanting the world to know their business? Have we opened a bigger illegal market with this? Only time will tell on this, but the nightmare has a foothold.
So now what? The jinn is out of the bottle. I can assure each and everyone of you that the other side will fight to keep it out!
We post register sex offenders, people who have broken the law, in this manner. We are now treating Law Abiding Citizens the same way? That is a BAD precedent.
Now let us look at this from the propaganda way. The NRA will use this stupidity on the side of THAT PAPER to strengthen their weak arguments (plural). Remember how the Bush administration used 9-11 as the answer for everything? Well here is the NRA's 9-11 answer! And do you really think the teaparty will let grass grow under their feet on this? Our side will take a pounding on this. The fight for better gun control has now hit a big problem, we just don't know how big at this time.
And let's take this to the nightmare point. How many gun sales will now be under the table due to people not wanting the world to know their business? Have we opened a bigger illegal market with this? Only time will tell on this, but the nightmare has a foothold.
So now what? The jinn is out of the bottle. I can assure each and everyone of you that the other side will fight to keep it out!
So there is the problem. We all know the NRA and others have some of the best Propaganda People money can buy. This has already started to knock Newtown out of the news. We are losing people to the other side that are law abiding because of this. We have a wound that is still bleeding. How are we going to treat it?
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datasuspect
Dec 2012
#33
Do you have an idea on how to fix the damage that has been done by that paper?
Lady Freedom Returns
Dec 2012
#7
Yes. Let gun owners dispose of them, and newspaper run free full page announcement of people
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#14
See, now there you go with a generalization that cannot on its BEST DAY happen statistically...
cherokeeprogressive
Dec 2012
#71
They certainly are not helping. Which makes me wonder about their stated intentions.
bluerum
Dec 2012
#8
They watch the polls to see how they can keep their job. To know what they should back..
Lady Freedom Returns
Dec 2012
#46
There is a belief in gun culture that you are safer if no one knows you have it.
Lady Freedom Returns
Dec 2012
#27
Why are you safer if no one knows? I thought the point was for people to know you are armed.
Squinch
Dec 2012
#38
My home address doesn't appear in the San Diego phone book, and if I gave you my real name...
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#93
So you don't mind the publisher, editor, and several reporters getting doxed, either?
Lizzie Poppet
Dec 2012
#76
dont do it cant do it wont matter cant do it no specific definition of assault weapons nope cant do
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2012
#63
Makes good sense to publish the names of gun owners. Let's neighbors know who has one, who doesn't.
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#68
What's really messed up is New York's laws that allow the newspaper to access that information...
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#90
I would love to know what they were looking to accomplish by publishing the names
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#94
It's not hard to figure out. They're trying to sell more newspapers by ginning up controversy.
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#96