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Ilikepurple

(459 posts)
178. I'm also sick of the "bashing" BS. It feels facile and counterproductive.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 01:25 AM
2 hrs ago

I’m not sure where the “bashing” narrative started, but it runs hard amongst a certain group that seems strangely overprotective of every decision our leadership makes. I’m willing to listen to arguments that the criticism is unfair, unfounded or even just rude. I might even learn something as has happened on occasion. Some who identify as progressive paradoxically insist we fall in line with the status quo. I’m not sure they understand progress requires change. It’s also okay if you don’t identify as a progressive, but if that’s the case defend your platform rather than not very democratically principled demand for conformity. What shape that takes is up for debate and that’s where divergent views may become useful. Regrettably, I think the idea is that then left leaning part of the party should concentrate on criticizing republicans because the center right has their hands full fending off any incursion from the left? They seemingly like to bash progressive constituents rather than left leaning politicians as to not betray their actual political views, although it sounds like Murielm99 has a word or two she’d like to share about Bernie and AOC, which contrary to her statement is surely allowed by DU’s TOS. If she was so bold to do so, we could then have a political discussion rather than this siblings in the car “he punched me first” nonsense. Who will bash the bashers? I think this thread provides some clues.

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Well played. Permanut 14 hrs ago #1
Absolutely! FalloutShelter 14 hrs ago #14
What are we playing? Own the libs? Ilikepurple 9 hrs ago #111
Please define critical discussion mcar 8 hrs ago #123
It's not this response. I imagined something closer to the discussion you and Cirsium had below. Ilikepurple 4 hrs ago #168
Post removed Post removed 5 hrs ago #164
I agree LetMyPeopleVote 1 hr ago #180
abolish ICE is not gonna happen and it is a bad look. there are some things I would like to see happen msongs 14 hrs ago #2
OK, did Shumer and Jeffries meet that minimum? Escurumbele 13 hrs ago #50
Seems to me they have mcar 8 hrs ago #124
Mahalo for Link, mcar... Turns out this is my fave Cha 2 hrs ago #177
Already bending on masks. we can do it 5 hrs ago #163
Nope mcar 5 hrs ago #166
Also stop the roving kidnap patrols sboatcar 12 hrs ago #71
Well done. sheshe2 14 hrs ago #3
They're hiding under the couch hoping GOP unpopularity will propel them to majority. Won't work. 617Blue 14 hrs ago #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Gore1FL 14 hrs ago #12
People keep forgetting we have a MINORITY STATUS in Congress Just_Vote_Dem 14 hrs ago #5
You're right. If we don't understand that, MineralMan 14 hrs ago #7
The solution is not to roll over hoping for a belly scratch.. NT Gore1FL 14 hrs ago #15
Sorry that doesn't hold water LearnedHand 8 hrs ago #136
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 14 hrs ago #6
Great Idea. Now...How do you do that in reality? MineralMan 14 hrs ago #8
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 14 hrs ago #9
You already said that. It's a great idea. MineralMan 14 hrs ago #11
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 14 hrs ago #13
So you got nothing. beaglelover 14 hrs ago #20
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 14 hrs ago #22
In two words. MineralMan 13 hrs ago #24
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 13 hrs ago #26
I want a pony. tritsofme 12 hrs ago #64
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 12 hrs ago #66
I want TWO ponies! tritsofme 11 hrs ago #84
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 11 hrs ago #94
huh? Cirsium 9 hrs ago #117
Imagine thinking antifascism is wanting a pony! Prairie Gates 7 hrs ago #139
When I started hearing that "pony" nonsense Cirsium 7 hrs ago #142
The same supposed realists now asking how many mask wearing fascists should be allowed Prairie Gates 7 hrs ago #145
Naming reality clearly Cirsium 7 hrs ago #152
Not really. Just "pull the plug" basically. FoxNewsSucks 13 hrs ago #41
Well, then they can scream that Schumer/Jeffries "caved" mcar 8 hrs ago #126
My idea? JustAnotherGen 13 hrs ago #29
Use the Senate rules to stop ICE funding. Gore1FL 14 hrs ago #19
Both of my Senators would vote that way. MineralMan 13 hrs ago #23
No help from my Senators, unfortunately calguy 11 hrs ago #90
So using your voice to influence legislators is okay or not? Ilikepurple 10 hrs ago #103
Neither would. Josh Hawley and Eric Schmitt are into white nationalism. Gore1FL 7 hrs ago #149
+1 GOP poll numbers make them vulnerable leftstreet 13 hrs ago #25
I'm going beyond that JustAnotherGen 13 hrs ago #30
That's the bottom line Prairie Gates 13 hrs ago #38
ICE has already been funded, it will continue to operate during a shutdown, and... W_HAMILTON 13 hrs ago #33
probably, but instead of rolling belly up, Dems should MAKE tRump do that. FoxNewsSucks 13 hrs ago #43
Who is "rolling belly up?" nt mcar 8 hrs ago #128
We do it when we have a trifect JustAnotherGen 12 hrs ago #56
That's a nice idea, but a Sinema/Manchin/Fetterman/LIEbermann du jour FoxNewsSucks 6 hrs ago #161
So, They have money now and if we try to stop them from getting more... Gore1FL 10 hrs ago #100
Vote against funding ICE for starters iemanja 12 hrs ago #63
It starts with advocacy Cirsium 12 hrs ago #77
In reality, the next president can just issue intheflow 11 hrs ago #91
Missed the point, again, I see. Gore1FL 14 hrs ago #10
No, I did not. I missed nothing. MineralMan 14 hrs ago #18
So the intention is to gaslight? Gore1FL 10 hrs ago #98
OK Cirsium 9 hrs ago #118
Is constantly bashing Schumer/Jeffries, mcar 8 hrs ago #129
"Bashing" vs accountability Cirsium 8 hrs ago #132
He did not miss the point. murielm99 12 hrs ago #79
I didn't know the point of DU was to cower in the corner. Gore1FL 10 hrs ago #101
I'm a purist when it comes to fascist gangs kidnapping and murdering people in the street Prairie Gates 7 hrs ago #141
If I ignored your bashing, murielm99 3 hrs ago #170
WTF? Gore1FL 3 hrs ago #173
Sooooo when elected Dems want to grease the skids for FoxNewsSucks 6 hrs ago #162
Don't try to put words in my mouth murielm99 3 hrs ago #171
See the question marks? that's NOT FoxNewsSucks 3 hrs ago #174
I'm also sick of the "bashing" BS. It feels facile and counterproductive. Ilikepurple 2 hrs ago #178
Well said! beaglelover 14 hrs ago #16
ICE hasn't been around that long, it was a fascist invention just like the debt ceiling, we can be the go along party or yaesu 14 hrs ago #17
What sort of fighting are you talking about? MineralMan 14 hrs ago #21
I would argue that there are "turning points" in between elections Ilikepurple 9 hrs ago #115
This point would have been arguable decades ago FHRRK 13 hrs ago #27
+1 leftstreet 12 hrs ago #78
It's very frustrating. Quiet Em 13 hrs ago #28
Dividing the Democratic Party is key. Targeting customized anti-Democratic attacks to fit. betsuni 13 hrs ago #36
Bingo! mcar 8 hrs ago #130
This thread MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #172
Nonsense Cirsium 13 hrs ago #31
"People can disagree with leadership and still be loyal Democrats." W_HAMILTON 13 hrs ago #34
I strongly question that Cirsium 13 hrs ago #40
As a progressive myself, i am cleaning up my own house here. W_HAMILTON 13 hrs ago #44
Out of line Cirsium 12 hrs ago #76
I'm not sure what cleaning house means other than resolving to silence progressive voices Ilikepurple 8 hrs ago #119
And again, everyone here did vote for those people. Scrivener7 7 hrs ago #148
Why do you question that? MineralMan 13 hrs ago #46
Of course Cirsium 11 hrs ago #80
"No single raindrop thinks it's responsible for the flood." W_HAMILTON 9 hrs ago #104
Democrat Party? MineralMan 10 hrs ago #97
Hardly Cirsium 9 hrs ago #107
Agree--I'm so tired of being accused of not being a loyal Democrat if I disagree with leadership on occasion crimycarny 12 hrs ago #54
Not having majorities in the House and Senate 3825-87867 11 hrs ago #93
FYI SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #112
You're telling Mineral Man to stop with the purity tests? mcar 8 hrs ago #131
Correct Cirsium 8 hrs ago #133
And those bashing Schumer/Jeffries aren't? mcar 8 hrs ago #134
I agree with that Cirsium 7 hrs ago #140
A. You invoked purity mcar 7 hrs ago #144
I know Cirsium 7 hrs ago #151
Thank you Cirsium! mcar 7 hrs ago #153
Thank you! Cirsium 7 hrs ago #154
Come on angrychair 13 hrs ago #32
My answer has to do with only one thing - Elections. MineralMan 13 hrs ago #35
Yes we need to vote D. We also need to inspire nonvoters to do so. we can do it 13 hrs ago #39
No one person will meet 100% of any persons requirements. 1WorldHope 12 hrs ago #52
"Plump bump" Seinan Sensei 12 hrs ago #59
The full title is plump bump on my rump😎 1WorldHope 12 hrs ago #68
And I don't think criticizing leadership on certain issues equates to wanting 100% crimycarny 6 hrs ago #160
"VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS! EVERY LAST F-ING TIME! NOTHING LESS WILL DO." I agree with that--- Jack Valentino 5 hrs ago #167
Abolish ICE we can do it 13 hrs ago #37
Yeah, that Got Us So Far in 2016 and 2024 Cha 13 hrs ago #42
These 2 are not meeting the moment, end of story dsp3000 13 hrs ago #45
I see. And I should be listening to you because... MineralMan 13 hrs ago #47
The Author Didn't Say You Should. It's A Declarative, Not An Imperative. ColoringFool 9 hrs ago #106
You made a post. The poster replied. How is their action more deserving of a snide dismissal than yours is? Scrivener7 8 hrs ago #135
Not even 95%! hay rick 13 hrs ago #48
Just so. MineralMan 13 hrs ago #49
Exactly. betsuni 12 hrs ago #67
This message was self-deleted by its author hadEnuf 12 hrs ago #51
The only way to avoid disappointment is to lack principles. Renew Deal 12 hrs ago #53
Politicians doing politics, governing. No! True saviors MAKE evil disappear with magic FIGHTING to MEET THE MOMENT. betsuni 12 hrs ago #55
Some of the posts on here are damn nasty. MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #175
What I want to see. . . . BigDemVoter 12 hrs ago #57
The Trick Is to Get That Majority in Congress. MineralMan 12 hrs ago #69
THANK YOU! MorbidButterflyTat 12 hrs ago #58
Most of us care about standing up to fascism iemanja 12 hrs ago #60
Um. If 24 Republicans voted against a bill that only 7 Democrats voted for, there is no way it passed. Wiz Imp 12 hrs ago #73
You're right iemanja 10 hrs ago #99
Yeah. Don't vote. That'll show them. CountMyVote4Reality 12 hrs ago #61
Who is saying don't vote? we can do it 5 hrs ago #165
Vote in the Democratic primaries and vote for Progressive Democratic candidates! Clouds Passing 12 hrs ago #62
Please point to ANYONE saying they won't vote aocommunalpunch 12 hrs ago #65
Anyone saying they won't vote is not here on DU. MineralMan 12 hrs ago #70
Insisting on political purity is what defeats Democratic candidates . love_katz 12 hrs ago #72
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush 12 hrs ago #74
Recommended. H2O Man 12 hrs ago #75
Agree completely. cksmithy 11 hrs ago #81
Elections have consequences. love_katz 11 hrs ago #82
. Zelda_Orchid 11 hrs ago #83
I don't berate some for being upset, especially the current situation with ICE. mdbl 11 hrs ago #85
We're the minority party. Where's the advantage? QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #95
Did you miss the part where the Senate can't pass the ICE portion without Democrats? mdbl 9 hrs ago #113
Everyone has reasons for supporting or not supporting the politicians that are elected to represent them. Nanjeanne 11 hrs ago #86
This is an awesome post. Scrivener7 7 hrs ago #137
Thanks. It's just how I feel. Nanjeanne 7 hrs ago #159
here's my deal quakerboy 11 hrs ago #87
It's more about people being tired of those who think performative resistance Rob H. 11 hrs ago #88
I am reminded of a line in Amiri Baraka's poem... NNadir 11 hrs ago #89
Yes! You speak for me! They should just IGNORE that we're the MINORITY party... QueerDuck 11 hrs ago #92
I think that may be the biggest straw man I've seen all week. Iggo 10 hrs ago #96
Well, ya know, shit's not going to stir itself. Someone's gotta do it. Scrivener7 7 hrs ago #138
I agree. BannonsLiver 10 hrs ago #102
How Is Agreeing To Masks Making "No Masks" "Possible To.... ColoringFool 9 hrs ago #105
Bruce Springsteen - STREETS OF MINNEAPOLIS Emile 9 hrs ago #108
Reality is sometimes hard to accept Progressive dog 9 hrs ago #109
I Would Like A Positive Example Of When Compromise With Republicans Has Helped Achieve... ColoringFool 9 hrs ago #110
A straw man. Nice. themaguffin 9 hrs ago #114
As others have correctly pointed out, this is a straw man fallacy. De-rec. nt Celerity 9 hrs ago #116
How so? It seems we'll reasoned and right on target. QueerDuck 8 hrs ago #121
this part: Celerity 7 hrs ago #156
This message was self-deleted by its author QueerDuck 7 hrs ago #157
It's a truthful parody of the ridiculous complains and... QueerDuck 7 hrs ago #158
But is it a strawman? MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #176
Waiting for permission from the future Cirsium 8 hrs ago #120
Why aren't they impeaching Trump RIGHT NOW!!11 mcar 8 hrs ago #122
Apparently they are lazy and too old... QueerDuck 7 hrs ago #143
Spineless, Turd Wayers mcar 7 hrs ago #146
I don't agree with Schumer and Jeffries 100% of the time SocialDemocrat61 8 hrs ago #125
RESCIND bdamomma 8 hrs ago #127
🪄🧙‍♂️🔮🧚‍♀️ It's so easy. Just do it. QueerDuck 7 hrs ago #147
I understand that the Democratic leadership markodochartaigh 7 hrs ago #150
I am regularly disappointed in both of those guys. MontanaMama 7 hrs ago #155
I'm still at a loss who this is directed at as obviously almost all of us vote Democrat Ilikepurple 3 hrs ago #169
Why post a divisive and insulting OP? PufPuf23 2 hrs ago #179
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