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In reply to the discussion: What is the difference between the terms "liberal" and "progressive" in American politics? [View all]H2O Man
(79,100 posts)follow your line of what is substituted for logic, then (classical) liberalism would equal the economics of the hard-right. I suspect that, for everyone but you, that highlights the dangers found in taking short-cuts -- ie, basing your position on a couple lines from wiki -- to rational thought. The line of thinking that some of the examples given is pretty close to the libertarian school of thought.
Should you go further in your studies, you will find a whole bunch of early liberals -- that do include some of the Europeans -- who were without question the very people who's thinking and actions led directly to what we think of as liberalism. One could start, for example, with the NYC attorney Henry Morgan, the primary influence on Engel's thoughts on family structure.
My answer was, of course, absolutely correct. I know what I'm talking about, and could -- as I've done with others on this very thread -- go on and on, with fascinating examples that provide valuable insight. If you were polite, I'd be more than happy to provide you with enough information that even you could contribute to this discussion in a meaningful way ..... rather than huffing and puffing and especially bluffing.
However, as you seem intent on being silly, let's provide everyone with a real giggle: why don't you name the five Irish-American women from 1875 to 1910, that you believe were most influencial in forming the liberal ideology that flowered under FDR and, to an extent, LBJ? Once you answer this, I'll be glad to continue talking with you. Fair enough?
Be good.