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maxrandb

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65. Your simplistic OP explains how a circus clown fascist got control of the most powerful military in the world
Fri Mar 6, 2026, 09:13 AM
Mar 6

I served almost 30 years in the United States Navy. I am neither "wishing and hoping" for an Iranian "victory", nor am I denying the overwhelming superiority of America's military might. I witnessed it myself for over 28 years of service.

I know in your "tik-tok, Instagram fight reel, Playstation War, attention span of a flea" social media world, you must feel exactly like Hegseth, that the "real story"...NO...THR ONLY story worth telling is the "glorious military victory" story. Heck, we're already basking in the glorious victory in Venezuela, as if the people of Venezuela will have no say in their longterm future.

We'll be greeted as liberators, right?

I mean, I am sure they will be super cool as their resources are raped by an imperial clown king.

We've seen this before.

Germany swept through about a dozen European countries in a little over a year. If we had social media at the time, I am sure there would have been millions of 15-second Facebook "war-porn" clips of ships and buildings being blown up.

Rah-Rah...look at the "glorious Christian victors". I imagine Musk, Zuckerberg and Bezos would have made a pilgrimage to Berlin, like the three Wise Men to genuflect and kiss the ass of the "boy king".

It's as if you think 'MuriKKKa has a monopoly on national pride and self-determination.

Let me put it in terms even MAGAt chicken hawk dipshits might understand.

Suppose an overwhelming military force came for America. Suppose they bombed the shit out of us, killed our children, imposed their will. Hell, you might even say we'd "submit" just to make it stop.

Would you consider it "over", or would you do everything in your power to resist and fight back. Would generations of Americans give-uo the fight, or would our children's, children's children still burn with the desire to be free?

Our military has the capability to go through country after country like crap through a goose, but like Alexander the Great learned; "all glory is fleeting".

It is the very epitome of patriotism to ask; "What's Next"?

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And yet, the US does not have control of Iran on the ground Fiendish Thingy Mar 6 #1
Why would the Kurds Trust the US, after (under TSF), they were so terribly Betrayed?? Nictuku Mar 6 #5
I don't know that they trust the US Fiendish Thingy Mar 6 #6
The Iranian people need to rise up Melon Mar 6 #7
What vacuum? dpibel Mar 6 #19
The Revolutionary guard is organized and well armed Fiendish Thingy Mar 6 #22
And the Basij is vast pat_k Mar 6 #27
There is NO "vacuum." Do you understand that the IRGC/Basij is a vast military, industrial, economic conglomerate... pat_k Mar 6 #26
There is a vacuum in high level leadership for the mikitary Melon Mar 6 #29
No. There isn't. pat_k Mar 6 #30
When will we be greeted with rose petals? gab13by13 Mar 6 #2
Two weeks. nt sheshe2 Mar 6 #28
Duzy. nt KentuckyWoman Mar 6 #48
You forgot the candy. choie Mar 6 #57
I had some difficulties differentiating between Russia's rhetoric (vs Ukraine) and the US propaganda to Nictuku Mar 6 #3
you mean the superfluous war that orange asshole started to take the focus off Epstein? NewHendoLib Mar 6 #4
IMHO Epstein's connection to Likud's version of Israel requires closer inspection. PufPuf23 Mar 6 #16
War in Iran bdamomma Mar 6 #62
The issue is that one man made the decison to enter the country into a war. CentralMass Mar 6 #8
Bombing the shit out of a country does not "regime change" make. pat_k Mar 6 #9
when iranian's lives are more miserable due to trump than the ayatollahs what then nt msongs Mar 6 #15
War of aggression is what people down south Melon Mar 6 #36
There are still people who refer to it with that term. OldBaldy1701E Mar 6 #70
Good Lord! vanessa_ca Mar 6 #10
🙄 .... What nonsense.... Melon Mar 6 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 6 #11
Agreed. They rarely are. Melon Mar 6 #20
If only everybody were as clear-sighted as you! Prairie Gates Mar 6 #13
Think about this: How would the World's Catholics react if Iran Killed the Pope? Nictuku Mar 6 #14
Post removed Post removed Mar 6 #23
"There still be opportunities for gorilla actions" Prairie Gates Mar 6 #25
'gorilla actions' lol SamuelTheThird Mar 6 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 6 #24
Or if we bombed Mecca or Rome? displacedvermoter Mar 6 #61
Yeah, dude! Afghanistan was helpless against our might, too! dpibel Mar 6 #17
Now that's the real point in all of this newdeal2 Mar 6 #35
Afghanistan now is trying to attract tourist dollars Melon Mar 6 #37
Enjoy your vacation True Dough Mar 6 #51
I hate everything ours and Iran fascist regimes does but you are right yaesu Mar 6 #18
There is a distinct difference between the Artesh (regular army) and the IRGC / Basij pat_k Mar 6 #34
Its not all or nothing either way Cosmocat Mar 6 #21
Trump will likely cut and run when he gets bored, price of oil gets too high or congress pushes him. LeftInTX Mar 6 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 6 #33
You've been demonstrably wrong about the war SamuelTheThird Mar 6 #32
March 6: US and Israel bombing sites in Bandar Abbas, presumably to prevent more hits on shipping Prairie Gates Mar 6 #67
Since you brought up "victory", let me ask you two questions. LudwigPastorius Mar 6 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 6 #40
I would bet against that happening. LudwigPastorius Mar 6 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 6 #43
As the OP said: dpibel Mar 6 #42
I rec'd based on the hope but would moniss Mar 6 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 6 #45
"Democracy " is the imaginary clothing worn by the Emperor. AloeVera Mar 6 #55
Just like what happened in Iraq, right? Scrivener7 Mar 6 #64
(running out of missles) is simply not going to happen? Tell the Atlantic scipan Mar 6 #46
We are winning their hearts and minds, right? BidenRocks Mar 6 #47
90 million new terrorists birthed is what I see as an outcome... SonOfNebanaube Mar 6 #56
Yesterday DU was called a pro-war board, today we're delusional about Iraq. What's next, we're ugly? betsuni Mar 6 #49
Really Whip-poor-will Mar 6 #50
I agree ._. Mar 6 #52
Well - it's coming from somewhAIre. Scrivener7 Mar 6 #63
There are 90 million people in Iran...I don't think bombs alone will make them do much of anything. pecosbob Mar 6 #53
And the topography Cosmocat Mar 6 #58
"They have no ability to meaningfully fight back." J_William_Ryan Mar 6 #54
There is one thing here I always read. rzemanfl Mar 6 #59
You're right. Iran has no real defense against our air assaults Buckeyeblue Mar 6 #60
Two days ago Trump was all about Kurd boots on the ground, yesterday he said ground action Prairie Gates Mar 6 #69
Probably. And he has to know that if he sends our troops in it'll be very unpopular Buckeyeblue Mar 6 #71
Your simplistic OP explains how a circus clown fascist got control of the most powerful military in the world maxrandb Mar 6 #65
I try to avoid the default position Torchlight Mar 6 #66
Christiane Amanpour spoke with Jon Stewart on Iran Quiet Em Mar 6 #68
It seems to me that they are doing a damn good job at fighting back. I am not the delusional one here. Ferrets are Cool Mar 6 #72
The Iranian regime is going no where fast. nt BootinUp Mar 6 #73
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