Now it's Their Turn, "How Does Shit Taste?"

[former_con]

20. Posts like these leave me scratching my head...

Yes it is a done deal here are the specifics, cliff avoided feather in the cap ???

http://news.msn.com/politics/update-white-house-gop-reach-a-deal-on-the-fiscal-cliff

You are acting like this is somehow good news that the Democratic President caved to his 250K red line in favor of getting a deal done that brought in less revenue because it only increases the taxes on people making 450K and above.....

When by any margin of reading other threads on this very forum, he was holding all the cards and all the chips and could easily have negotiated as a tax cutter starting tomorrow.

It saddens me a bit because I was on that side and listened to that crap being spewed by the rightwing talk radio and fox news, luckily I woke up and then I come here thinking that people would really be much different and maybe stick to principles... and like I said on an earlier thread the Right loves it when this side caves in, furthermore this whole debate is about pennies really we are talking about a 5 percent tax increase on the very wealthy that is nuts, that won't even give Obama enough money to pay for spending increases over the next 10 years what we really should be talking about is serious tax increases, this country is facing a financial threat bigger than any threat from any War in our history the tax rate called out in 1942 by FDR was 94 percent marginal income tax rate and he lowered the top bracked from a million down to 200K So truely the rich paid a fair share of their income to sponsor the War the countries very survival depended on it.... Today I argue we face the same threats.... How can we even be considering messing with programs that the most vulnerable among us depend on to live in favor of allow the fat cats to get fatter and fatter, It is time for a truly patriotic call for those with the means to pay the most to get this country back on an even keel. If we keep going down this dysfunctional road of beleiving the rightwingers meme of government spending being the problem than we are going to hurt the most vulnerable.

If the choice is do nothing and face ultimate collapse of the currency or force the richest to pony up and pay their real fair share than that is exactly what we the people should be demanding...

Why aren't we talking about a VAT?
Why aren't we talking about wealth tax?
Why aren't we talking about a banking or trading transaction tax?
How about a massive yearly tax on people that want to "bear arms" 5k per yearly renewable license, no infringement on your rights just pay whats due?

Seems to me that the moderates are the ones that will be pulling us ultimately toward paying this debt on the backs of the elederly and the poor.... and that really sucks.