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NH Ethylene

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69. We are faced with 2 candidates

Sat Mar 7, 2026, 08:27 PM

Mar 7

Each has stances on a large variety of issues. We learn about the candidates and choose the one who is the best, or at least the least objectionable. And of course that is always the Dem.

Single issue voting is partly what gave us a second term of Trump. People who cared passionately about the genocide in Gaza were angry at Harris for not taking a stand against Israel for these actions. Many did not realize that Trump would be far less sympathetic to Palestinians than Harris, nor were they politically savvy enough to realize Harris had to maintain that support for Israel or she would be skewered as antisemitic during the election. We all wound up with Trump and they were bitterly betrayed.

We need to understand there is a lot of nuance in politics. A female candidate, for example, has to sound tough on enemies or she will be considered weak. That doesn't mean she will bomb 8 countries in her first year!

So we have to make a choice based on many factors, many issues, many impressions. And we make the best choice we can. Trump made 'no new wars' a part of his campaign. Based on your criteria, he would be the one to vote for, and yet doing so unleashes chaos, crime, fascism and lies.

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I'm done with this [View all] angrychair Mar 7 OP

Make their voting records public and easy to find for anyone. They need shamed Deuxcents Mar 7 #1

Vote D over R... lame54 Mar 7 #2

No more trillion dollar military budgets angrychair Mar 7 #5

No.more R's lame54 Mar 7 #7

No more warmongers. angrychair Mar 7 #8

The warmonger in chief... lame54 Mar 7 #9

I didn't vote for him angrychair Mar 7 #10

I understand your polnt and mostly agree. wnylib Mar 7 #46

Not true Cirsium Mar 7 #17

Disagree... lame54 Mar 7 #62

What has happened? Cirsium Mar 7 #70

Republicans thank you for your service. W_HAMILTON Mar 7 #12

Both Sides Warmongers message aimed at potential Democratic voters in 2028 to discourage participating. betsuni Mar 8 #84

Yep. This is YET another post that is trying to suppress the vote and discourage people from voting for Democrats. QueerDuck Mar 8 #90

Unless it's Fetterman. 56miSSie Mar 7 #74

Post removed Post removed Mar 7 #3

Staying for pizza? Totally Tunsie Mar 7 #4

Irony is not their strong suit, is it? n/t ok_cpu Mar 7 #6

agree. Maru Kitteh Mar 7 #11

The circular firing squad forms RetiredParatrooper Mar 7 #13

Not binary thinking angrychair Mar 7 #15

don't vote for Kamala because she supported "Genocide Joe" lapfog_1 Mar 7 #31

It very much is RetiredParatrooper Mar 7 #60

No angrychair Mar 7 #66

I don't care for either endless war, or endless budgets RetiredParatrooper Mar 8 #82

Well good luck with that. Happy Hoosier Mar 8 #102

Nope angrychair Mar 8 #118

binary thinking? rampartd Mar 7 #61

we Skittles Mar 7 #77

It's amazing Orrex Mar 8 #83

What it boils down to is that we must not suggest we can do better. All those of us who do that Scrivener7 Mar 8 #101

If the choice is between a Dem that supports military funding ... Zelda_Orchid Mar 7 #14

Then this cycle will continue angrychair Mar 7 #19

And the fascists will use their propaganda machine to make you believe that. Zelda_Orchid Mar 7 #22

If you are Democrat angrychair Mar 7 #23

If you're a Democrat, you support getting rid of the fascists. Zelda_Orchid Mar 7 #33

What is arbitrary angrychair Mar 7 #37

The Democratic Party is a coalition. With different factions uniting for the common good. Zelda_Orchid Mar 7 #41

I'm confused angrychair Mar 7 #52

Post removed Post removed Mar 7 #54

Ok angrychair Mar 7 #57

It's much easier to have a real conversation about military funding with someone who isn't trying to kill you. Zelda_Orchid Mar 7 #58

One would argue angrychair Mar 7 #64

Have fun living in a dictatorship Wiz Imp Mar 7 #36

Why? angrychair Mar 7 #38

🙄 Wiz Imp Mar 7 #42

All due respect angrychair Mar 7 #44

🙂 Wiz Imp Mar 7 #75

and so you are STILL saying - that you fully intend to 'sit out' (withhold your vote/support) stopdiggin Mar 7 #79

No, that's not what I said angrychair Mar 8 #85

I share your frustration with the size of the military-industrial complex. However... QueerDuck Mar 8 #91

Then how can we expect anything to change? angrychair Mar 7 #67

yeah, we need to force change, but it's not simple or easy and we can't afford to not vote for the Democrat themaguffin Mar 8 #92

Unless something has changed very recently Quiet Em Mar 7 #16

Phew! That's one Dem bullet dodged! MorbidButterflyTat Mar 7 #55

Thank you! Summarizing it quite nicely. stopdiggin Mar 7 #80

Funny how they always seem to have juuuust enough votes orangecrush Mar 7 #18

Funny how Putin popsdenver Mar 8 #81

Careful you'll upset the obnoxiously self righteous people SunImp Mar 7 #20

Exactly angrychair Mar 7 #21

Then you won't be voting this year? paleotn Mar 7 #29

I will happily angrychair Mar 7 #34

It seems you're moving the goal posts. paleotn Mar 7 #47

My point is this angrychair Mar 7 #59

Got it. I agree. paleotn Mar 7 #71

Well the USS Ford angrychair Mar 7 #73

And rightfully so. paleotn Mar 7 #28

Talking down to people is never a winning strategy SunImp Mar 7 #35

"Talking down to people" is exactly what #OP is doing, innit? Zelda_Orchid Mar 7 #45

.. SunImp Mar 7 #53

Sometimes you simply can't help yourself. paleotn Mar 7 #48

I'm impressed by the confidence it takes to lecture others on 'talking down' to people while using those adjectives. QueerDuck Mar 8 #88

The obnoxiously self-righteous people who are correct about purity tests Fullduplexxx Mar 8 #104

Here we go again. Same old arguments just before an election. Some folks never learn. sop Mar 7 #24

Not the same angrychair Mar 7 #26

Thing is, I agree with your position of not supporting war funding, endless wars and trillion dollar military budgets. sop Mar 7 #39

How so? angrychair Mar 7 #43

If elections were only about stopping endless war funding and trillion dollar military budgets, I would agree with you, sop Mar 7 #50

Those are all that matter angrychair Mar 7 #56

Not voting for (and sabotaging) Democrats doesn't prevent the funding. Instead, it just guarantees MORE funding... QueerDuck Mar 8 #89

Yes it the same ...she has a funny laugh, but her emails . Gitmo was closed fast enough Fullduplexxx Mar 8 #95

Recommended. H2O Man Mar 7 #25

I hear you angrychair Mar 7 #30

Baby meet bathwater. paleotn Mar 7 #27

Why? angrychair Mar 7 #40

See 47 above. Your argument may not have been clear. At least to me. paleotn Mar 7 #49

Admittedly angrychair Mar 7 #68

I know it's fucking disgusting every fucking election we get these people Fullduplexxx Mar 8 #106

DURec leftstreet Mar 7 #32

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Mar 7 #51

so do I Celerity Mar 8 #113

Everyone should keep an eye on their own Senators. Quiet Em Mar 7 #63

Wow. The people in this thread who are arguing with you are actually insisting that we mustn't have Scrivener7 Mar 7 #65

We are faced with 2 candidates NH Ethylene Mar 7 #69

One, I would never vote for a Republican angrychair Mar 7 #72

If the Democratic candidate also voted for military funding, you would vote for a third party candidate instead? MichMan Mar 7 #76

Did angrychair ever say anything remotely resembling that? If so, please link to it. Scrivener7 Mar 8 #97

I don't see any other way to interpret their own words MichMan Mar 8 #111

"another penny of military funding .." (that would include paying service members ..?) stopdiggin Mar 7 #78

I am kinda confused here with your post. sheshe2 Mar 8 #86

Evidently Democrats chomping at the bit for "endless wars and bottomless military budgets" and betsuni Mar 8 #87

Yup, first I heard of it. sheshe2 Mar 8 #110

"Defund the Military" makes as much political sense as "Defund the Police"... QueerDuck Mar 8 #107

You are right. sheshe2 Mar 8 #109

I understand your frustration - and luckily its the primary season TBF Mar 8 #93

Just like those who wouldnt vote for her because of her emails Fullduplexxx Mar 8 #94

Really? Do you think it's just like that? Scrivener7 Mar 8 #96

Yes it is. Fullduplexxx Mar 8 #98

We'll have to agree to each think the other is bat shit crazy. Scrivener7 Mar 8 #99

Well then enjoy the rest of trump's 2nd term and his 3rd term. Fullduplexxx Mar 8 #103

Which is a deliberate misinterpretation. Read angrychairs other posts in this thread. Scrivener7 Mar 8 #105

Just going by their words as written. If that's not what they intended, they should edit it. MichMan Mar 8 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Mar 8 #115

Angrychair, I appreciate your post, and I'm sorry to see the finger-waggers have arrived to distort its message. Scrivener7 Mar 8 #100

Finger wagers? SocialDemocrat61 Mar 8 #108

It's sad, really. MorbidButterflyTat Mar 8 #117

DONE. WITH. WAR. Clouds Passing Mar 8 #112

Let's get real MorbidButterflyTat Mar 8 #116