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BainsBane

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16. its purpose is stimulus
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 01:00 AM
Jan 2013

to put more money in the hands of lower and middle income Americans, who in turn spend that money, stimulating economic growth and job creation.

So your assertion is that the President implemented the payroll tax holiday because he wants to destroy Social Security? You could say the above are effects of that holiday that you don't like, but to argue that is the purpose of the payroll tax holiday is factually inaccurate and undermines your argument.

The payroll tax holiday goes to those who don't earn enough to pay federal income tax. That is precisely why it is stimulative and why writing something into the tax code doesn't help those working Americans.

Why are you so wedded to the most regressive tax in our nation's history? The payroll tax penalizes the poor and rewards incomes above $110, which are exempt from the tax. Why not propose a progressive payroll tax rather than a regressive one?

And I really don't care to hear the empty-headed response that what I've written above is remotely Republican or right wing. The GOP has always hated the payroll tax holiday and opposed it at every turn. They want tax cuts to go to the wealthy. The payroll tax holiday is in keeping with demand-side economic theory as opposed to supply-side, trickle down that the Republicans advocate. They are two different models of economic growth.

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I totally agree. But from the news the payroll tax cut has been doc03 Dec 2012 #1
The FICA cut was something the Prez could do w/o the Congress bigbrother05 Dec 2012 #2
Well, that's a load of boloney... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #3
There's a lot of baloney being posted here lately. I'm amazed at the lack of civics knowledge. freshwest Dec 2012 #4
Lack of civics schooling is part of 'their' plan. TheProgressive Dec 2012 #6
good op Progressive! The intent is as exactly how you describe it. watch the apologists tell you he In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #5
It is our duty to continue the democracy that the founders established... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #8
If you believe that, I've got a bridge . . . . JDPriestly Jan 2013 #30
It was part of a temporary stimulus package and should now be eliminated. grantcart Dec 2012 #7
Agreed. However, the 'news' people say it is reinstated... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #9
It's fine if they wanna retain the cut. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Yo_Mama Dec 2012 #11
The Social Security rate will be restored: DevonRex Jan 2013 #12
Decent humans has no problem paying their way.... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #13
Big K&R! Good riddance! grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #14
Agreed. SoapBox Jan 2013 #15
so you agree that the president's secret plan BainsBane Jan 2013 #17
its purpose is stimulus BainsBane Jan 2013 #16
All I can say is... wow- what a post! TheProgressive Jan 2013 #18
what are you talking about? BainsBane Jan 2013 #19
Three paragraphs of total gibberish... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #21
you have no idea what you're talking about BainsBane Jan 2013 #25
Well it is not a 'democratic' idea however it is an Obama pushed idea... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #27
questions about your misunderstanding? BainsBane Jan 2013 #28
google regressive taxation BainsBane Jan 2013 #22
That didn't work on me. I up'd my 401k contibution by 2% when it went into effect. RB TexLa Jan 2013 #23
but the poor spend it BainsBane Jan 2013 #26
It is definitely a help...... MzShellG Jan 2013 #20
How about just a normal tax cut instead... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #24
This is becoming my fave post: snot Jan 2013 #29
great read, thanks [nt] Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #32
It's not that simple. Everyone pays FICA, not everyone pays income tax Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #31
Yes, everyone who receives a paycheck up to $106k. But... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #33
Refundable tax credit, just like the subsidies in the Wealthcare and Profit Protection Act TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #34
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