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vanessa_ca

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Tue Mar 10, 2026, 01:53 PM Mar 10

Iran is now using Mach 14 missiles. [View all]




Edit to add, that Engels did not specifically mention hypersonic, so I find that tweet a bit misleading.

They allegedly damaged Al-Udayri base, a US strategic helicopter base, a logistic support base, and a power station in Israel. Allegedly.




The following is from an Iranian source so do with it what you will. I can't vouch for anything, but prefer not to wait for Bari Weiss and other MSM to trickle down whatever our government wants.




Editing to add this recent article from March

Iranian sources on February 28 released footage of the launch of the Fattah ballistic missile, which integrates a next generation manoeuvring re-entry vehicle to effectively evade missile defences. This was followed by the reported first ever launch of the Fattah-2, a heavily enhanced successor to the missile, on March 1. The Fattah-2 missile uses a hypersonic glide vehicle rather than a usual ballistic missile reentry vehicle, allowing it to manoeuvre in both pitch and yaw, to maintain far higher reentry speeds, and to approach targets from unexpected directions. Such missiles can sustain atmospheric skip-glide or shallow glide flight at hypersonic speeds. The missiles were launched following the initiation of coordinated large-scale military assault against Iran by the United States and Israel, which has seen multiple high value targets including key leadership figures targeted, and the country’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei killed.



While the large majority of ballistic missiles launched are reported by Iranian sources to have been lower value missile types, which may be intended to depleted hostile missile defences in the conflict’s earlier stages, higher value missiles like the Fattah and Fattah-2 may have been launched to neutralise high value targets that it is seen as important to destroy early on, such as the missile defence radar destroyed in Qatar. Their use may also serve as an important show of force regarding the room the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps retains for escalation. While the U.S. has suffered from severe shortages of anti-ballistic missiles for its Patriot and THAAD missile defence systems, however, it remains highly uncertain in what quantities the Fattah and Fattah-2 have been brought into service, with the latter in particular estimated to cost several times as much as older ballistic missile types such as the Khorramshahr.

Iran was reported to have first obtained manoeuvrable reentry vehicle technologies from North Korea in the 1990s, with such vehicles having also been sold to Syria that decade for its Hwasong-9 ballistic missiles, providing countermeasures against interception by Israel’s newly supplied Patriot air defence systems. North Korea began flight testing of hypersonic glide vehicles in September 2021, and reached a landmark in 2024 with the service entry of the Hwasong-16B intermediate range ballistic missile which integrates such vehicles. It has been speculated that Iran may have either jointly developed these technologies, or purchased them from North Korea. Although adversary missile defences, most notably the Patriot system, have proven to be far from reliable, the much improved penetrative capabilities of the Fattah and Fattah-2 are nevertheless game changers for Iran’s offensive potential.

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The Fattah’s ability to maintain controlled manoeuvrability inside the atmosphere seriously complicates possible interception efforts using systems such as the Israeli Arrow and U.S. Army THAAD. The missile has a reported 1,400 kilometre range, and according to Iranian sources uses a hypersonic glide vehicle to achieve a terminal speed of Mach 13 to Mach 15. Its combination of speed and manoeuvrability make it nearly impossible to intercept. Leading technological challenges in moving from manoeuvrable reentry vehicles to hypersonic glide vehicles include enduring skin temperatures exceeding 2,000 degrees celsius, avoiding the extreme cracking of composite materials, and maintaining stable control despite ablative erosion. Extremely accurate inertial systems, and pre-loaded terrain and trajectory shaping, are also vital. Both the Fattah and the Fattah-2 have been assessed to have significantly complicated Western and Israeli missile defence planning.

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Iran Launches First Ever Hypersonic Glide Vehicle Strike: New Fattah-2 Missile Revolutionises Arsenal’s Potential


This is from Feb 28 this year

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A Russian gift? Dave Bowman Mar 10 #1
Yep.................... Lovie777 Mar 10 #2
I don't think so. People have been talking about it since about 2022 vanessa_ca Mar 10 #7
+1 leftstreet Mar 10 #17
I'm wondering if Russia was desperate enough for drones against Ukraine, Uncle Joe Mar 10 #24
You mean Iranians are not all goat herders? Bluetus Mar 10 #54
Military Watch points the finger at North Korea vanessa_ca Mar 10 #15
Thanks! Dave Bowman Mar 10 #37
Opens the door for our boom sticks in Ukraine OC375 Mar 10 #3
Only arrogance and disrespect would allow these morons to diss a 10,000+ malaise Mar 10 #4
one of the places that science and mathimatics were developed. Where their population has a very high proportion ... marble falls Mar 10 #26
Indeed. They have some of the best scientists and engineers in the world vanessa_ca Mar 10 #31
For most of my science/math classes I did better if I could get into study groups with Iranian students. marble falls Mar 10 #35
Plus, desperation has given them extra incentive, just like Ukraine Fichefinder Mar 10 #62
I'm watching a report on heritage sites being destroyed. Irreplaceable both physically and emotionally Deuxcents Mar 10 #36
Effin monsters malaise Mar 10 #43
One commentor theorized they would hold their cards and bide their time GusBob Mar 10 #5
It's a rational strategy BeyondGeography Mar 10 #6
It's worked out well this year for Ukraine. We go for the quick kill, they play a long game. marble falls Mar 10 #28
Fake and or misleading. Eko Mar 10 #8
Iran is famous for issuing BS new stories about their "wonder weapons" which never go into production EX500rider Mar 10 #9
Yeah, I noticed that too and edited the OP afterwards. Thanks -eom vanessa_ca Mar 10 #14
Question for you vanessa_ca Mar 11 #64
Could be. Eko Mar 11 #67
Thank you! -eom vanessa_ca Mar 11 #68
Can a laser shoot one down? OC375 Mar 10 #10
What is faster than the speed of light? sarisataka Mar 10 #13
The speed at which a lie passes Trump's lips. cloudbase Mar 10 #18
Point conceded sarisataka Mar 10 #19
the speed of light is the fastest that information can be carried DBoon Mar 10 #44
Bit of a joke OC375 Mar 10 #25
You are off by a factor of 3600 sarisataka Mar 10 #27
Dang auto-correct! OC375 Mar 10 #29
A good idea flying over TACO's head. Totally unstopable. marble falls Mar 10 #30
Might go the speed of light, but power required for an interceptor lasar haele Mar 10 #45
The speed of sound is faster EYESORE 9001 Mar 10 #52
"Extremely slow" ??? Where does that come from ? 186,000 mps (300,000 kps) is faster than anything else in the Universe. eppur_se_muova Mar 10 #42
Yeah no way this missile has a "one ton warhead" EX500rider Mar 10 #11
1 ton is the re-entry vehicle (RV) weight. Warhead has an estimated weight between 350 kg and 450 kg -eom vanessa_ca Mar 10 #21
The video by Engel doesn't mention hypersonic but it does mention cluster munitions sarisataka Mar 10 #12
Iran using cluster munitions especially against civilians Eko Mar 10 #16
I am glad there is at least one person sarisataka Mar 10 #22
I don't mind saying it. Two wrongs have never made a right and the Mullahs of Iran are some patriarchal nasties artemisia1 Mar 10 #49
Misrepresented RoseTrellis Mar 10 #20
Also just about all orbital Vehicles come down at about that speed EX500rider Mar 10 #23
And it takes 25,000 mph to get a vehicle to break from earth's gravity. ... marble falls Mar 10 #34
Shhh, this is an unstoppable Super Weapon sarisataka Mar 10 #40
Even the steerable parts not that revolutionary EX500rider Mar 10 #41
That's 10,741.8 mph Kid Berwyn Mar 10 #32
He was not being deceptive in his post. Many missiles that are not considered true "hypersonic" will achieve hypersonic artemisia1 Mar 10 #33
The "maneuver" thing is the key. And it ain't easy. The Russians have blown up lots of equipment, scientists, ... marble falls Mar 10 #39
So true. I don't believe for a second that Russia has missiles that can maneuver at Mach 14 speeds as they artemisia1 Mar 10 #48
They have three missiles capable of Mach eight to 10. This is from US intellegence. ... marble falls Mar 10 #56
You misunderstood my post. Yes, their missiles can meet and exceed Mach 14, but I doubted that they could artemisia1 Mar 10 #59
"Mach 14", eh? ForgedCrank Mar 10 #38
They do have Mach 9 missiles. All nations' space probes were ALL launched at least at 25,020MPH or Mach 32.6. ... marble falls Mar 10 #55
The ISS ForgedCrank Mar 10 #61
U.S. missiles rarely exceed Mach 3. usonian Mar 10 #46
The US Minuteman III is a Mach 23 system and it is not the fastest on the planet. marble falls Mar 10 #57
My ICBM and related knowledge is {sadly,happily} lacking. usonian Mar 10 #58
I lived on a fleet ballistic missile sub. I slept within a few minutes walk from nuclear weapons and two reactors ... marble falls Mar 10 #60
I'm going to press X to kinda sorta doubt on this one, I think. Jedi Guy Mar 10 #47
I don't find Engels trustworthy. SamKnause Mar 10 #50
They made the USA and Israel waste good missiles against drones and dummies. GreenWave Mar 10 #51
The vast majority of claims and video especially from Iran are nothing but government propaganda. AI slop Melon Mar 11 #65
Iran is playing chess while Trump and Whisky Pete markodochartaigh Mar 10 #53
To balance, the US minuteman 3 goes Mach 23 and was developed in 1961...... Melon Mar 10 #63
If they have this indefensible technology, why haven't they sank our carrier? Melon Mar 11 #66
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