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AZJonnie

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21. I agree with what you posit in broad terms for sure
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 03:35 AM
Mar 13

I didn't mean to say this is "all there is to it".

Yes, coming up with (what we NOW know to be) supernatural explanations for why things are the way they are did happen when humans lacked the technical capabilities to explain the REAL reasons things are as they are.

There's a number of causes for this of course, like not having reasoned out the scientific method yet (at least, not through a lot of early human history), the inability to widely share knowledge, the inability to bring the best minds together for collaboration, and especially due to the lack of instruments like telescopes and microscopes and electron microscopes, not mention a periodic table or an understanding of atoms and molecules, and the other building blocks of the universe.

When you have NO idea how anything actually works, this means ANYTHING you think of could be 'the real reason'. The notion that Zeus was a supernatural being did not occur to Romans because they had no frame of reference, they simply did not know what was "natural". ANYTHING they imagined could be completely real, for all they knew. It's only in hindsight that we recognize that their explanations were supernatural ideas, i.e. things that are not actually possible per the known laws of the universe and matter and such.

So, yes, It is fact that human beings have an innate tendency to want to reckon WHY things happen/happened.

But why? I will posit that the primary utility is to predict, or more optimally, direct future outcomes.

And in turn, ability to predict or direct outcomes confers a survival advantage to the group, and the individual. The ancient supernatural explanations you're alluding to being religions were just people making shit up, in hopes of increasing their chances of living and reproduction. Banding together and believing the in same explanations helped them make these explanations SEEM more real/reliable. This process formed the "roots" of primitive/early religions. Eventually individuals realized that if you graft the ideas of magical protection and eternal life onto this framework, you can really draw the suckers in, and make them work for YOUR benefit, control societies, get people to go to war for you (after all, you don't REALLY die when you die for your Lord on the battlefield! HEAVEN AWAITS!).

Hence my supposition that the most basic part of religion, whether its people who worshipped the god of the trees and the rain and the sun, or Zeus or Rah, or Yahweh, or Allah? It all fundamentally arose from our survival instincts.

Religions that continue to exist now in large numbers, these are the ones that hold onto ideas of protection during life, and eternal life afterward.

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Hate and division. SamKnause Mar 13 #1
War and Suffering walkingman Mar 13 #2
I'm special. I have a special friend. My special friend tells me I'm special for being RockRaven Mar 13 #3
Meh canetoad Mar 13 #4
Sky Daddy for everyone...yippee! wcmagumba Mar 13 #5
At it's most basic, I think religion is the embodiment of about 500M years of evolution AZJonnie Mar 13 #6
Interesting take. AZ8theist Mar 13 #17
I agree with what you posit in broad terms for sure AZJonnie Mar 13 #21
i think it's an evolutionary vestige of the big ape days. mopinko Mar 13 #20
Yes, a "God as Ultimate Alpha" DEFINITELY arose from our animal ancestors being tournament species AZJonnie Mar 13 #22
mostly but mopinko Mar 13 #23
Well, yeah, of course. Every living creature's purpose is passing their DNA packet. AZJonnie Mar 13 #25
However, said survival does not require BadgerKid Mar 13 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 13 #7
If religion were to disappear overnight peace on earth would be a real possibility yaesu Mar 13 #8
No, I doubt that very much - harumph Mar 13 #35
Psychological enslavement. John1956PA Mar 13 #9
Fiddlesticks, it's a human thing like anything else. Humans love stories. betsuni Mar 13 #10
In a mild private form jfz9580m Mar 13 #16
not all of us believe in nonsense Skittles Mar 13 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 13 #11
Looks like Christians are overrepresented. Not sure what the point is? Ilikepurple Mar 13 #12
it is sickening Skittles Mar 13 #13
It's Christians and Muslims that have a history of violence and forced conversions JI7 Mar 13 #14
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Skittles Mar 13 #19
It is all about profits in the end jfz9580m Mar 13 #15
And then, one Thursday... HariSeldon Mar 13 #24
Hmmmmmmm malaise Mar 13 #27
No it isn't. QueerDuck Mar 13 #28
It can be, depending upon the believer. no_hypocrisy Mar 13 #29
it's a mass delusion... mike_c Mar 13 #30
I tend to believe people are. Torchlight Mar 13 #31
That is Okay. Atheist communists & Nazi's have killed many religious people. Jacson6 Mar 13 #32
Combining angrychair Mar 13 #34
That's not religion, it's people EdmondDantes_ Mar 13 #33
Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. summer_in_TX Mar 14 #36
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