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Sat Mar 14, 2026, 10:23 AM

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They Didn't Want to Have C-Sections. A Judge Would Decide How They Gave Birth. [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Mar 14 OP

a 3 hr hearing when she is in ACTIVE LABOR??!!!! mopinko Mar 14 #1

Wow. That is appalling. The child is more important than the woman, no matter what. Biophilic Mar 14 #2

Extreme situation. But perhaps it was the safest option for woman and child. paleotn Mar 14 #4

What's extreme about this situation is forcing someone who's in active labor into a court hearing to establish legally WhiskeyGrinder Mar 14 #5

What about dying makes it unacceptable? paleotn Mar 14 #6

People make medical decisions that result in their own deaths all the time. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 14 #7

And that's perfectly fine with me. paleotn Mar 14 #37

You're reccing your own posts? Crunchy Frog Mar 15 #67

So what. I didn't rec if 4 TIMES paleotn Mar 15 #76

Exhibit A: all those Jehovah's Witnesses who refuse blood transfusions for themselves OR their children. ShazzieB Mar 14 #39

The pregnant woman's profession was assisting women to deliver safely....got it? Hope22 Mar 14 #9

Exactly what part of viable, at term, and in fetal distress do you not fucking understand? paleotn Mar 14 #38

Your last sentence... GenThePerservering Mar 14 #42

Tell that to the person who I responded to, not me. paleotn Mar 14 #43

The hearing was three hours long. Quiet Em Mar 14 #46

She was in labor for 12 freaking hours!!!!!! paleotn Mar 14 #47

and? Quiet Em Mar 14 #48

And? An obstetrics team is going to go to all that trouble unless it's for a good reason? paleotn Mar 14 #57

No, I'm not an OB-GYN and neither are you. Quiet Em Mar 14 #59

SO WHAT!? paleotn Mar 15 #75

You seem to believe you know a lot Quiet Em Mar 15 #77

And you know that how? paleotn Mar 15 #78

What crap has your partner seen many, many times? Quiet Em Mar 15 #79

Fine. You don't want trained, profession opinion, go treat yourself. paleotn Mar 15 #80

Why are you so hostile? Quiet Em Mar 15 #81

Ah, you're being omniscient again. paleotn Mar 15 #82

My son was born after 30 hrs. of labor. Whats your point? Lochloosa Mar 14 #50

Medical professionals didn't go to this extreme unless there was good reason. paleotn Mar 14 #56

12 hours of labor is NOT. VERY. LONG. Crunchy Frog Mar 15 #68

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The woman stated she had already had a life threatening complication from a C Section. Hope22 Mar 14 #61

Yes, I'm willing to sacrifice the lives of some full term fetuses to protect women's rights to bodily autonomy. Crunchy Frog Mar 15 #66

It was the woman's profession, but in her own case she was not making the safest decision karynnj Mar 14 #44

3 prior c-sections Freddie Mar 14 #53

Completely agree karynnj Mar 14 #54

My first was a C-section buzzycrumbhunger Mar 14 #58

If ONLY the decision was based on the health and welfare of the mother... the existing slightlv Mar 14 #45

The patient in question is a doula. usedtobedemgurl Mar 14 #49

Because she's a doula doesn't mean she is a good doula. ToxMarz Mar 14 #51

Sure. Of course a judge knows better. Ok. usedtobedemgurl Mar 15 #62

No, I am not saying that ToxMarz Mar 15 #74

Ok usedtobedemgurl Mar 15 #83

I worked in that field. When you're in the hospital, you don't have a choice. LeftInTX Mar 14 #20

It's not as rare as people think, and it doesn't matter if someone thinks it's "safest". Crunchy Frog Mar 15 #65

only the fetus stage Kali Mar 14 #8

Yup, the kid is on his or her own. Biophilic Mar 14 #19

It seems to me... GiqueCee Mar 14 #34

... Solly Mack Mar 14 #3

Whose body is it? dlk Mar 14 #10

In states like Florida, the state has control over a woman's body erronis Mar 14 #11

It's not just Florida. In almost 30 states, hospitals can override the advance directives of pregnant people. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 14 #14

Darwin's body. paleotn Mar 14 #36

Jeezus. If men gave birth, this would not be a thing. Joinfortmill Mar 14 #12

Eh, men do give birth and it still is a thing, but likely because of the discrimination trans men face. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 14 #13

I've had four c-sections Mossfern Mar 14 #15

I'm so glad you and your babies survived these! erronis Mar 14 #17

Thank you for this thoughtful post. LisaM Mar 14 #21

I think the trauma Mossfern Mar 14 #24

I was a nurse in newborn. LeftInTX Mar 14 #23

I was surprised to learn episiotomies aren't recommended anymore Sympthsical Mar 14 #33

I had three kids: LeftInTX Mar 14 #35

Interesting. Thank you for sharing! Sympthsical Mar 14 #55

I have also had four c-sections. Bettie Mar 15 #72

Beyond appalling. Mother first, unless both can be saved & the mother's wishes unclear (& she is hlthe2b Mar 14 #16

I was going to share this. Thank you so much for doing it! ... littlemissmartypants Mar 14 #18

Hands off women's wombs. perverts! GreenWave Mar 14 #22

Women of reproductive age need to get the hell out of Florida. This is absurd. Quiet Em Mar 14 #25

I see no reason for a judge to be called into this. Ilsa Mar 14 #26

If it's an emergency C-Sect, fetal distress, certain maternal conditions, unknown fetal conditions etc. LeftInTX Mar 14 #28

Oh, I know, I've been there. I was relieved when Ilsa Mar 14 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author MorbidButterflyTat Mar 14 #31

That sounds terrifying MorbidButterflyTat Mar 14 #32

I lived in a county that for a time had the highest Ilsa Mar 14 #27

Wondering... MorbidButterflyTat Mar 14 #30

I read the ProPublica article cksmithy Mar 14 #40

Glad I posted this thread. It's good to get a reminder about just how easily so many people are willing to sign away WhiskeyGrinder Mar 14 #41

3 prior c-sections are a HUGE risk. But, AllyCat Mar 14 #52

This story really bothered me so I did some more research Quiet Em Mar 14 #60

This is like Rosemary's baby! C Moon Mar 15 #63

This is absolutely disgusting. Under no circumstances should women ever be robbed of the right to Crunchy Frog Mar 15 #64

Interesting to see how much anti-choice sentiment there really is here on DU. Article and the responses Crunchy Frog Mar 15 #69

Agree. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 15 #71

OMG 😳 this is insane. The hospital was so wrong in this. If it was me I would be so furious what they did TommieMommy Mar 15 #70