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Demo_Chris

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61. As an "Obama critic" I don't think it's a terrible deal (cont)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:46 AM

Jan 2013

From what little I have seen so far at any rate.

I am disappointed that the tax increase was not applied at 250K. Obama vowed that he would veto any extention of the tax cuts for those making over $250,000. True to form, he didn't follow through. At this point the GOP has to know that the surest sign Obama will cave immediately is if he vowes not to. I am disappointed that we will have to go through this nonsense again in a couple months.

I am disgusted that he proposed chained CPI. That is simply inexcusable. It's pretty freaking sad when Ronald Reagan is more "liberal" on social security than our own President, but there it is. Chained CPI didn't pass this time, but it will make a comeback.

The worst thing in my opinion is that Obama is still not advancing Democratic party solutions. He's still talking about the deficits and cutting entitlement spending. He's still playing "enlightened republican."

I will not say we would have been better off going over the cliff, but we very well might have been. We wont know until the actual details of this plan become known. We'll see what cuts Obama agreed to.

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What am I supposed to be outraged about? [View all] boxman15 Dec 2012 OP

Of all the compromises that could be made to get the GOP to budge, this is fairly inoffensive. phleshdef Dec 2012 #1

deal kardonb Dec 2012 #53

Because the whiners need to whine, otherwise they would no longer qualify as whiners graham4anything Dec 2012 #2

It is all this whining that has started driving me toward the center... Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #3

lmao iamthebandfanman Dec 2012 #52

It's not utopia, man!!! tabasco Dec 2012 #4

I know this gets said alot, but that REALLY iamthebandfanman Dec 2012 #48

I am a damned dirty hippy with dreams of utopia tabasco Dec 2012 #57

I have to agree based on what we know Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #5

Given that the Republicans can barely deal with their own teabaggers Lex Dec 2012 #6

What? Outraged? Of course you should be outraged. MineralMan Dec 2012 #7

Ah, I see the problem. Igel Dec 2012 #18

They'll let us know. I am in the process of getting rid of old outrages TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #8

actually there is something as important that people are missing.. oldhippydude Dec 2012 #9

Most people are spinning this as a victory for the Republicans Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #10

Spinning as an R victory on TV, or here at DU? Lex Dec 2012 #16

It sure seems like it Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #26

A 15% cut in the inheritance tax rate and a $4M increase in the starting point, Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #11

We should not do this. It is stopgap, and the Republicans will demand cuts to Social Security JDPriestly Dec 2012 #17

I've been fairly hard on the president... TDale313 Dec 2012 #12

I've already reminded people that the GOP backed off on chained CPI... backscatter712 Dec 2012 #13

Here at HairOnFireUnderground? ms liberty Dec 2012 #14

I'll help ... JoePhilly Dec 2012 #21

Therefore..... Sophiegirl Dec 2012 #42

Crap, could have solved my own personal JoePhilly Dec 2012 #47

Thank you - its so delightfully descriptive! ms liberty Dec 2012 #58

you don't have to be outraged about it Enrique Dec 2012 #15

Unemployment extension, no tax hike on <$250k/year and pushing off the sequester jeff47 Dec 2012 #22

for me, as someone who thought 250K was way too high, Enrique Dec 2012 #23

So you want to raise taxes on everyone in order to raise taxes on whatever you define as "rich". jeff47 Dec 2012 #30

I agree. $100,000 on personal should be a much better start. RC Dec 2012 #45

hardly outrage zipplewrath Dec 2012 #55

Yeah I can't see why people would be upset Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #29

I'm with you on this one Moral Compass Dec 2012 #19

Because DU has become the world of "Fuck the working poor"! Mass Dec 2012 #20

Tom Harkin Enrique Dec 2012 #25

And he refused to say if he would filibuster Mass Dec 2012 #37

Paul Krugman wants to fuck the working poor, too! MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #32

Why can't more people around here see that? RC Dec 2012 #46

in the words of someone above iamthebandfanman Dec 2012 #51

Thanks for the heads-up Deb Dec 2012 #24

Word! maybe they have forgotten how long the rich have had 0 taxes pasto76 Dec 2012 #27

The rich have not had 'zero taxes' and this deal only raises the very rich by 4.6 % Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #62

Which deal is that? Link please. grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #28

I get the feeling this is all GOP political theater Taverner Dec 2012 #31

Yep, to distract us from crucial issues like global climate change, our Cleita Dec 2012 #34

Good points. Blanks Dec 2012 #56

Much better to let the ALL the tax rates on rich go back up then pass tax cuts for middle class ErikJ Dec 2012 #33

I agree but apparently our overlords in Washington don't. n/t Cleita Dec 2012 #35

No real deal is being made. sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #36

+ My household. n/t truedelphi Dec 2012 #40

I agree and would add the republicans get 80% of what they want in this deal. n/t. airplaneman Dec 2012 #43

that is a very good summary Skittles Jan 2013 #59

Seems to me like the Republicans doubled the income level to be taxed that Obama campaigned on. world wide wally Dec 2012 #38

Well, here's a paragraph gleaned off Huffington Post: truedelphi Dec 2012 #39

Agree 100%. Glad to see someone look at this deal in a rational way instead of..... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #41

There is no need to be outraged anymore, the Republicans took the Chained sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #44

I dunno, but im glad you made this post iamthebandfanman Dec 2012 #49

Outrage makes no sense think_critically Dec 2012 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author shireen Dec 2012 #54

Agree 100% aaaaaa5a Jan 2013 #60

As an "Obama critic" I don't think it's a terrible deal (cont) Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #61