Pres Obama: David, in pursuit of strengthening SS, I'm willing to cut SS benefits

[tomp]

249. you say my way will never work....

....and i say the same back to you.

the ultimate effects of a third party are mere speculation. i promote it because short of insurrection i don't see a viable way forward, which is hardly viable itself (i mean, who wants another civil war, though it may come to that).

one of the things that people often forget is that about half of eligible voters do not vote. a progressive party might be drawing from voters other than the usual dems, repubs, and indpenedents. another speculation is that there are enough disaffected democrats, who, given another choice, might move to the progressives. it could be curtains for the dems. or it could force a negotiation between the dems and progressives, unifying a broader base against the repubs. however, i think ultimately the democratic party will resist anything other than being a wolf in sheep's clothing.