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In reply to the discussion: Krugman's Perspective on the Deal [View all]FailureToCommunicate
(14,606 posts)13. "IF..."
"If Obama stands his ground in that confrontation, this deal wont look bad in retrospect. If he doesnt, yesterday will be seen as the day he began throwing away his presidency and the hopes of everyone who supported him."
If
BY RUDYARD KIPLING
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, dont deal in lies,
Or being hated, dont give way to hating,
And yet dont look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dreamand not make dreams your master;
If you can thinkand not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth youve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: Hold on!
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kingsnor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything thats in it,
Andwhich is moreyoull be a Man, my son!
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That's right. The flip side of negotiation is appeasement. As the UK learned in the late 30s, the
coalition_unwilling
Jan 2013
#49
Yeah, I'm okay with this latest deal. But I was also okay with going off the cliff, and thought
Honeycombe8
Jan 2013
#74
I'm ok with this temporary deal, although the estate tax is now permanent.
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2013
#10
The difference is in the short-term effects versus the long-term effects.
Jackpine Radical
Jan 2013
#19
No, the effects of climate change and good predictive evidence on the other points are clear enough
alcibiades_mystery
Jan 2013
#48
If President Obama can't stand firm on raising the debt ceiling, the Senate Democrats must.
RickFromMN
Jan 2013
#9
It is sad that so few at DU understand this, even though it is right out in the open
BlueStreak
Jan 2013
#58
Krugman is expert at using multivariable calculus and differential equations to describe the economy
stevenleser
Jan 2013
#64
I think Krugman is right. And also that Obama is infinitely smarter than his political foes.
Zen Democrat
Jan 2013
#41
Not a dime. They kicked that down the road, and it will get caught up in the next hostage-taking
BlueStreak
Jan 2013
#59
But at the same time they did this nominal increase in tax rates, they also gave multi-millionaires
BlueStreak
Jan 2013
#60
I love that you and the other "pragmatic" third wayers are throwing Sanders' name around.
MessiahRp
Jan 2013
#78
I'm not a "3rd wayer", but nice try at deflection. You have no explanation so you attack.
stevenleser
Jan 2013
#81
I've seen a number of people who attack Sanders at every turn, bandy his name about today
MessiahRp
Jan 2013
#90
If that is your theory then why get sore at the natural responses to getting poked?
TheKentuckian
Jan 2013
#71
"...evident desire to have a deal before hitting the essentially innocuous fiscal cliff
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2013
#75
Bad taste in what progressives' mouths?? I think most of the progs who wanted Bush Tax Cuts expire
Leopolds Ghost
Jan 2013
#79