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paleotn

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75. SO WHAT!?

Sun Mar 15, 2026, 10:18 AM

Mar 15

If your so goddamn confident in your knowledge go down to your local hospital and tell them you're ready to start practicing OB/GYN. Go ahead. Let us know how that works out. I've had ingrown toe nails. I'm a fucking podiatrist. I'll hang my shingle tomorrow and start practicing

Medical professionals made a call in a difficult delivery and had to go legal to protect themselves AND the woman and child. My practicing partner has seen this shit before, but luckily never had to go so far as get a judge involved. The child was at term and viable, thus a person, thus the medical team had to legally AND ETHICALLY take that into account no matter what the mother wanted. This ain't all about her.

This is the same "I had such and such so I can expertly second guess those TRAINED IN THE FUCKING FIELD" shit as the right. Just a different party affiliation.

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They Didn't Want to Have C-Sections. A Judge Would Decide How They Gave Birth. [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Mar 14 OP

a 3 hr hearing when she is in ACTIVE LABOR??!!!! mopinko Mar 14 #1

Wow. That is appalling. The child is more important than the woman, no matter what. Biophilic Mar 14 #2

Extreme situation. But perhaps it was the safest option for woman and child. paleotn Mar 14 #4

What's extreme about this situation is forcing someone who's in active labor into a court hearing to establish legally WhiskeyGrinder Mar 14 #5

What about dying makes it unacceptable? paleotn Mar 14 #6

People make medical decisions that result in their own deaths all the time. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 14 #7

And that's perfectly fine with me. paleotn Mar 14 #37

You're reccing your own posts? Crunchy Frog Mar 15 #67

So what. I didn't rec if 4 TIMES paleotn Mar 15 #76

Exhibit A: all those Jehovah's Witnesses who refuse blood transfusions for themselves OR their children. ShazzieB Mar 14 #39

The pregnant woman's profession was assisting women to deliver safely....got it? Hope22 Mar 14 #9

Exactly what part of viable, at term, and in fetal distress do you not fucking understand? paleotn Mar 14 #38

Your last sentence... GenThePerservering Mar 14 #42

Tell that to the person who I responded to, not me. paleotn Mar 14 #43

The hearing was three hours long. Quiet Em Mar 14 #46

She was in labor for 12 freaking hours!!!!!! paleotn Mar 14 #47

and? Quiet Em Mar 14 #48

And? An obstetrics team is going to go to all that trouble unless it's for a good reason? paleotn Mar 14 #57

No, I'm not an OB-GYN and neither are you. Quiet Em Mar 14 #59

SO WHAT!? paleotn Mar 15 #75

You seem to believe you know a lot Quiet Em Mar 15 #77

And you know that how? paleotn Mar 15 #78

What crap has your partner seen many, many times? Quiet Em Mar 15 #79

Fine. You don't want trained, profession opinion, go treat yourself. paleotn Mar 15 #80

Why are you so hostile? Quiet Em Mar 15 #81

Ah, you're being omniscient again. paleotn Mar 15 #82

My son was born after 30 hrs. of labor. Whats your point? Lochloosa Mar 14 #50

Medical professionals didn't go to this extreme unless there was good reason. paleotn Mar 14 #56

12 hours of labor is NOT. VERY. LONG. Crunchy Frog Mar 15 #68

Post removed Post removed Mar 15 #73

The woman stated she had already had a life threatening complication from a C Section. Hope22 Mar 14 #61

Yes, I'm willing to sacrifice the lives of some full term fetuses to protect women's rights to bodily autonomy. Crunchy Frog Mar 15 #66

It was the woman's profession, but in her own case she was not making the safest decision karynnj Mar 14 #44

3 prior c-sections Freddie Mar 14 #53

Completely agree karynnj Mar 14 #54

My first was a C-section buzzycrumbhunger Mar 14 #58

If ONLY the decision was based on the health and welfare of the mother... the existing slightlv Mar 14 #45

The patient in question is a doula. usedtobedemgurl Mar 14 #49

Because she's a doula doesn't mean she is a good doula. ToxMarz Mar 14 #51

Sure. Of course a judge knows better. Ok. usedtobedemgurl Mar 15 #62

No, I am not saying that ToxMarz Mar 15 #74

Ok usedtobedemgurl Mar 15 #83

I worked in that field. When you're in the hospital, you don't have a choice. LeftInTX Mar 14 #20

It's not as rare as people think, and it doesn't matter if someone thinks it's "safest". Crunchy Frog Mar 15 #65

only the fetus stage Kali Mar 14 #8

Yup, the kid is on his or her own. Biophilic Mar 14 #19

It seems to me... GiqueCee Mar 14 #34

... Solly Mack Mar 14 #3

Whose body is it? dlk Mar 14 #10

In states like Florida, the state has control over a woman's body erronis Mar 14 #11

It's not just Florida. In almost 30 states, hospitals can override the advance directives of pregnant people. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 14 #14

Darwin's body. paleotn Mar 14 #36

Jeezus. If men gave birth, this would not be a thing. Joinfortmill Mar 14 #12

Eh, men do give birth and it still is a thing, but likely because of the discrimination trans men face. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 14 #13

I've had four c-sections Mossfern Mar 14 #15

I'm so glad you and your babies survived these! erronis Mar 14 #17

Thank you for this thoughtful post. LisaM Mar 14 #21

I think the trauma Mossfern Mar 14 #24

I was a nurse in newborn. LeftInTX Mar 14 #23

I was surprised to learn episiotomies aren't recommended anymore Sympthsical Mar 14 #33

I had three kids: LeftInTX Mar 14 #35

Interesting. Thank you for sharing! Sympthsical Mar 14 #55

I have also had four c-sections. Bettie Mar 15 #72

Beyond appalling. Mother first, unless both can be saved & the mother's wishes unclear (& she is hlthe2b Mar 14 #16

I was going to share this. Thank you so much for doing it! ... littlemissmartypants Mar 14 #18

Hands off women's wombs. perverts! GreenWave Mar 14 #22

Women of reproductive age need to get the hell out of Florida. This is absurd. Quiet Em Mar 14 #25

I see no reason for a judge to be called into this. Ilsa Mar 14 #26

If it's an emergency C-Sect, fetal distress, certain maternal conditions, unknown fetal conditions etc. LeftInTX Mar 14 #28

Oh, I know, I've been there. I was relieved when Ilsa Mar 14 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author MorbidButterflyTat Mar 14 #31

That sounds terrifying MorbidButterflyTat Mar 14 #32

I lived in a county that for a time had the highest Ilsa Mar 14 #27

Wondering... MorbidButterflyTat Mar 14 #30

I read the ProPublica article cksmithy Mar 14 #40

Glad I posted this thread. It's good to get a reminder about just how easily so many people are willing to sign away WhiskeyGrinder Mar 14 #41

3 prior c-sections are a HUGE risk. But, AllyCat Mar 14 #52

This story really bothered me so I did some more research Quiet Em Mar 14 #60

This is like Rosemary's baby! C Moon Mar 15 #63

This is absolutely disgusting. Under no circumstances should women ever be robbed of the right to Crunchy Frog Mar 15 #64

Interesting to see how much anti-choice sentiment there really is here on DU. Article and the responses Crunchy Frog Mar 15 #69

Agree. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 15 #71

OMG 😳 this is insane. The hospital was so wrong in this. If it was me I would be so furious what they did TommieMommy Mar 15 #70