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bowens43

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41. This is exactly right.

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:58 AM

Jan 2013

We got another shitty temporary (except for the wealthy who make between 250,000-and 400,000, they got a permanent tax break) deal because Obama once again caved in to the cons. All he had do was do nothing. He then would have been in a very strong bargaining position. Now he has nothing and in two months the cons are going to destroy him in negotiations.

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This is no way to govern. [View all] MadHound Jan 2013 OP

Repugs repeatedly hold us hostage and we have to blame Obame... Ohio Joe Jan 2013 #1

It is up to Obama whether to call the 'Pugs bluff, MadHound Jan 2013 #5

with all due respect DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #52

Russia has steppes...we have bluffs...as far as the eye can see. HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #7

wrong.... bowens43 Jan 2013 #38

The President makes a lot more than $400K annually BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #2

Just noting an interesting fact. MadHound Jan 2013 #6

For starters, he made about $800K last year BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #8

That and he just increased his salary, and that of Congress. nt. eilen Jan 2013 #11

That salary increase is rescinded by the fiscal cliff deal. Lasher Jan 2013 #16

An obvious attempt to ease his personal tax burden BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #18

He didn't increase his salary. He doesn't have the power to do that. phleshdef Jan 2013 #55

You just accused the President of an impeachable offense--manipulating the tax code for personal msanthrope Jan 2013 #22

Insane indeed. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #3

Agree 100%. djean111 Jan 2013 #4

I'm afraid this country has been governing this way off and on since the beginning of its existence Pirate Smile Jan 2013 #9

thanks-- good piece NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #21

Never. We just try to mitigate the damage they can cause. Pirate Smile Jan 2013 #27

Completely agree.... Swede Atlanta Jan 2013 #10

Obama roped the dopes again. Give it up. graham4anything Jan 2013 #12

"Rope the dopes"? It's a bad deal for America. Dawgs Jan 2013 #19

I guess we are the dopes. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2013 #25

The 3 stages WashingtonConsensus Jan 2013 #13

Playing chicken with psychos is not wise. DCBob Jan 2013 #14

Then why did Obama and the Dems set up another contrived crisis just two months down the road? MadHound Jan 2013 #31

because a comprehensive deal was not possible now. DCBob Jan 2013 #40

No, the only option was to stand up to the bully, MadHound Jan 2013 #53

Lets get something straight BrainMann1 Jan 2013 #15

Welcome to DU--home to many who blame Obama first rather than Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #33

More purist nonsense from MadHound, the always-angry man. YAWN...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ... RBInMaine Jan 2013 #17

You just accused the President of maniuplating the tax code for his personal gain. Prove what you msanthrope Jan 2013 #20

You had me until your 4th paragraph where you just had to jump of the cliff lunatica Jan 2013 #23

R you kidding me? Botany Jan 2013 #24

No they didn't get what they wanted. bowens43 Jan 2013 #39

I really don't ProSense Jan 2013 #26

It's all a farce & we pay them for this kabuki theater...joke's on us. nt mother earth Jan 2013 #28

Representative Democracy Is Not Pretty... KharmaTrain Jan 2013 #29

This is so true. mgardener Jan 2013 #30

"simply calling their bluff and going off the fiscal cliff" BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #32

You are gonna get beat up by the "party first" dems...... dotymed Jan 2013 #34

***This*** 99Forever Jan 2013 #35

Shock doctrine obamamyprez Jan 2013 #36

On most points, I agree...but there would have been a price for going over LibertyBell7 Jan 2013 #37

This is exactly right. bowens43 Jan 2013 #41

Go effin' tell that to the Republican/Teabagger obstructionists who Skidmore Jan 2013 #42

Now THAT's truly 'no way to govern' Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #43

Government by Shock Doctrine. woo me with science Jan 2013 #44

^^^ this^^^ TDale313 Jan 2013 #51

Obama participated in creating the fiscal cliff Oilwellian Jan 2013 #45

It's a symptom of Teabagger idiocy running amok in the House. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #46

LOL MuseRider Jan 2013 #47

Speaking as one of the most radical among us, Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #48

and SOOO many DUers fall for it Skittles Jan 2013 #49

I think I owe you an apology. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #54

Surely at some point the President will realize no one can successfully negotiate with those acting indepat Jan 2013 #50