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muriel_volestrangler

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9. Can you explain what you would have liked to happen, and how you think it would play out?

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:28 AM

Jan 2013

I really would like to understand those who think this is an awful deal, but most explanations have got sarcasm or rhetorical questions in that I really can't distinguish from actual wishes or predictions.

I've got your first part: Obama and Biden should have said "no deal", and then all the pre-arranged changes for Jan 1st start - income taxes back to 1990s levels for pretty much everyone, end of extended unemployment benefits, payroll taxes back up by 2 percentage points; various spending cuts, both military and non-military.

Economists think this would, if allowed to stand, cut GDP so that it shrinks about 0.5% in 2013, and increase unemployment by about 1 percentage point. You say most people would rally behind Obama, because this doesn't look good - and demand what? How much evidence do you have for what you think people would demand the GOP do at this point?

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Do You Favor Or Oppose The Current Fiscal Compromise? [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2013 OP

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It works for now IMHO, in the long run we just have to keep speaking out and hoping for the best Liberalynn Jan 2013 #2

I don't even pretend to understand it so I have no opinion Fumesucker Jan 2013 #3

Going off the so called cliff would've garnered a whole army behind the president to fight the GOP mother earth Jan 2013 #4

Can you explain what you would have liked to happen, and how you think it would play out? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #9

Maybe this will explain better than I can: mother earth Jan 2013 #10

Interestingly, he says "I think a reasonable person can defend the bill on its own terms" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #16

Oh, you don't "see" it. Same old, same old, giving it all away before any mother earth Jan 2013 #18

And for "how much evidence do I have" to think people would demand the GOP get off their collective mother earth Jan 2013 #13

Starvation, poverty, homelessness, despair, sickness... Chan790 Jan 2013 #14

It always was a "game" of chicken & completely reversible...days...we'll never know mother earth Jan 2013 #15

Slightly better than nothing. Prometheus_unbound Jan 2013 #5

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It's better than I thought we would get, or at least this quickly. nt bemildred Jan 2013 #7

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It is what it is. rucky Jan 2013 #11

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