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NNadir

(38,093 posts)
43. Thanks. To be perfectly honest I only see four trials for PCSK9 inhibitors in aortic stenosis, three in China, one...
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 03:10 PM
Mar 16

...in Korea.

Many of the other arteriosclerosis lipoprotein A related studies actually include inclisiran either as a co-administration agent or as a standalone; some with statins, for which I have developed either a tolerance or, as I suspect, a degree of hypersensitivity. I am experiencing the muscular issues..

In my career in drug development, I've come to understand that getting to a phase 3 trial is not an indication that a drug is safe and effective; if it were, there would be no reason to do a phase 3 trial. I have been around phase 3 trials that completed without the drug being approved, a famous case in which I was peripherally involved being omapatrilat, a dual ACE/NEP inhibitor, which failed in phase 3 owing to an incidence of angioedema in a subset of patients. (I tend to think that with modern molecular biology screening, it would have been possible for the drug to have been approved; it addressed a refractory population, generally African American who do not respond well to traditional blood pressure medicines.)

In any case, I don't think my case requires waiting for an additional treatment option in clinical trials. In the worst case, I will need a TAVR, which I've already begun investigating on an admittedly superficial level at this point. I only recommend the use of experimental treatments to friends and colleagues who ask for my comments in situations in which no viable approved treatment options exist, such as certain cancers.

There is an online calculator for TAVR risk which I've used. The risk of a fatal failure is reported for my age, GFR (which is required for some reason) is about 1.5%. It's not preferable to zero risk, but isn't all that bad either.

In a sense, PCSK9 inhibitors are a case of shutting the barn door after the horses escape to use the well worn cliche. It is possible that inclisiran will slow progression of the disease somewhat, but will not reverse it, at least from my preliminary understanding as I look into the matter in the literature.

It is interesting that of my six maternal aunts, three of them, as well as my mother, were reported to have rheumatic fever related valve disease. One of my aunts was the tenth person ever to have an artificial heart valve replacement - obviously open heart, not TAVR. She lived for about 15 years after the procedure if memory serves me well. Whether the etiology of their syndromes was in fact related to rheumatic fever or represented a genetic case is interesting to consider. During their lives diagnostic tools of the type we have today simply did not exist. None of my three maternal uncles had valve disease. Only three of my affected aunts died from heart disease, the one who was the tenth case, and two of her sisters, although one was in her mid 80's, a long well lived life, and the other who passed suddenly in her 60s despite life long heart issues. My mother did not live long enough to develop full blown heart disease; she died of a brain tumor at 51.

No one in my paternal family exhibited heart disease, although it appears that my paternal uncle and father had a genetic anomality known as Barrett's esophagus, which I have apparently inherited. I've outlived both of them. This syndrome triggers cancer upon exposure to nitrosamines, to which both my father and uncle were exposed owing to their really bad cigarette addictions. I may have been exposed to nitrosamines from an unexpected complication related to making the synthesis of valsartan "greener," recycling DMF. I get routinely checked: So far, so good.

The molecular biology of lipoprotein A strikes me as interesting, and may involve an allosteric interaction if I'm reading my preliminary papers from the literature correctly, and I'm looking into it both out of curiosity and personal interest. Thank you for stimulating that interest.

Thanks as well for your comments and suggestions. Right now I'm happy with my medical care which strikes me as sufficiently reasonable. It's a bit unnerving to recognize this syndrome, to be sure, but I've been increasingly aware of my mortality as time goes on, and frankly, regard mortality in a positive light, as it makes life precious in a sense. Facing a risk gives me an excuse to say some things I have wanted to say to my sons and to my wife without being overly morbid.

I have lived a life better than I deserved I think. I can't argue with it.

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I want you to stick around. murielm99 Mar 15 #1
I wish you the best of luck Nnadir. Swede Mar 15 #2
The etymology of my screen name is rather simple. NNadir Mar 15 #5
Do you know that Jeff Tiedrich (smirking chimp) has a substack niyad Mar 15 #34
I know 2 people who just had surgery to replace that valve. Both doing fine surfered Mar 15 #3
Yes, I've looked into it. I find it amazing that it can now be done without open heart surgery, via catheter. NNadir Mar 15 #6
I hope it is approved and that it works. Even a few years more, once we are quite elderly, is a true gift. Let us know ratchiweenie Mar 15 #4
This is purely anecdotal... LuckyCharms Mar 15 #7
Keep up with this optimistic anecdotal stuff and... NNadir Mar 15 #9
. LuckyCharms Mar 15 #10
Hey, who said you could have my dark thoughts??? niyad Mar 15 #32
Oh, geez, do I have to separate you two AGAIN? niyad Mar 15 #31
You are not allowed to leave, just yet. Polly Hennessey Mar 15 #8
Keep us informed. I hope this works for you. OLDMDDEM Mar 15 #11
Need ya to stick around and keep irritating folks with the facts and edumacating the rest of us ;). Good luck !! n/t Cheezoholic Mar 15 #12
I got my aortic valve replaced 5 years ago. EndlessMaze Mar 15 #13
Please stick around as i enjoy your science writings n/t gay texan Mar 15 #14
Positive thoughts for approval. Whatever treatment you ultimately choose, I pray that it LoisB Mar 15 #15
I am sorry to hear that NNadir jfz9580m Mar 15 #16
Hoping for the best for you! AltairIV Mar 15 #17
Mine was rejected. I ended up with Repatha. My LDL's are negligible at this point. Gore1FL Mar 15 #18
I wish you the best. area51 Mar 15 #19
So . . . AverageOldGuy Mar 15 #20
So we can figure a three year review for possible approval? Norrrm Mar 15 #21
Nothing to add to all of the already heartwarming posts, but hamsterjill Mar 15 #22
Ask to see an interventional cardiologist about TAVR dalton99a Mar 15 #23
I've already looked into this case. It's intriguingly cool. NNadir Mar 15 #36
I wish you the best LetMyPeopleVote Mar 15 #24
I know you're a spring cluck, but aren't you on Medicare? And if so, is it covered? erronis Mar 15 #25
Thank you. I needed this today. h2ebits Mar 15 #26
All the best to you jfz9580m Mar 15 #27
Thanks for your thoughts. h2ebits Mar 15 #30
NN, I'm befuddled by this and frustrated with my lack of a response for this news. littlemissmartypants Mar 15 #28
Rooting for you, NNadir. blm Mar 15 #29
Vibes for the very best possible outcome, my friend. niyad Mar 15 #33
Best of luck. I have 4 cardiologist and I proved them all wrong. multigraincracker Mar 15 #35
Do not short change yourself - valve replacements are done every day. harumph Mar 15 #37
I'm sure you've looked into it. What are the outcomes of the replacement vs the injection for a man of your age and retread Mar 15 #38
It sounds to me as if you might have high lipoprotein (a), which is genetic. femmedem Mar 15 #39
Thanks. To be perfectly honest I only see four trials for PCSK9 inhibitors in aortic stenosis, three in China, one... NNadir Mar 16 #43
I understand what you mean about the positives of mortality. femmedem Mar 16 #44
Thanks. The drugs listed in the link are all "me too" PCSK9 inhibitors in the siRNA class except Muvalaplin, which... NNadir Mar 16 #45
Make sure they are measuring your apolipoprotein B (apo(b)) Ms. Toad Mar 15 #40
Wishing you good health for years to come! yardwork Mar 15 #41
not sure which is worse Skittles Mar 15 #42
Fingers crossed for approval . . . . hatrack Mar 16 #46
Have you looked into Repatha? GaYellowDawg Mar 16 #47
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