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Pototan

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51. Sometimes you have to put up with it, other times not

Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:29 AM

Mar 20

For instance, the best we could ever do in West Virginia was Joe Manchin. He'd vote with us 50% of the time, but he caucused with the Democrats. West Virginia is 70% MAGA. You are not getting anyone to the left of Manchin elected there.

But Arizona and Pennsylvania are quite different. We were fooled by Sinema. That's a swing state and we can elect a more loyal Democrat than her, and we did.

The same thing about Pennsylvania. We could easily have elected Connor Lamb, but Penn. has a closed primary, so the more progressive candidate won, John Fetterman. How's that working out?

This time around (2028) that closed primary system will work against Fetterman. As long as only one (or maybe two) candidates run opposed to Fetterman, he'll be out in the primary. We can elect the primary winner in Penn. without having to have a piece of shit like Fetterman represent the Democrats from Penn.

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Serious question: We have an excellent rule about not bashing Democratic [View all] niyad Mar 19 OP

it's better to criticize specific behaviors instead of general dislike msongs Mar 19 #1

Yes. Criticizing after a specific vote, action, comment seems fair game... hlthe2b Mar 19 #4

You seem to have missed the point of the question. niyad Mar 19 #6

Well, I've seen some sanity applied to that rule. I've yet to see comments about Fetterman hlthe2b Mar 19 #2

Oh, they are being alerted on, which is what led to my question. niyad Mar 19 #7

Do you know if they are being hidden? I've made some careful critiques of public figures based on hlthe2b Mar 19 #10

The few with which I am familiar have not been hidden that I know of. niyad Mar 19 #16

Fetterman's current voting record soldierant Mar 20 #36

I know several Republicans--each of whom worship Trump while denying it... Orrex Mar 20 #61

EXCELLENT!!! niyad Mar 20 #64

They are alerted FoxNewsSucks Mar 20 #43

Schumer, the Dem leader whom presided in the Senate over ALL of Biden's historic legislative accomplishments? bigtree Mar 20 #70

I don't disagree. The point is that I don't think expressing disagreement with a vote, comment or hlthe2b Mar 20 #78

One OP about him was definitely alerted on yesterday senseandsensibility Mar 20 #76

And how does that rule apply to people who call themselves Democrats Bluetus Mar 19 #3

That's a great question leftstreet Mar 19 #5

Thank you. niyad Mar 20 #65

Well, when a supposedly registered democrat goes on Fox News and accuses us of "Trump Derangement Syndrome"... Initech Mar 19 #8

I presume you mean Fetterman.... RussBLib Mar 19 #9

You are quite correct. I wish I could say I was shocked by that remark, niyad Mar 19 #13

Sometimes you have to put up with it, other times not Pototan Mar 20 #51

From your keyboard to the ultimate administrator! niyad Mar 20 #66

He certainly votes with Republicans now. ananda Mar 19 #14

Some people on this board who have known him for a long time say niyad Mar 19 #19

That wouldn't surprise me at all. ananda Mar 19 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Mar 20 #48

I used to blame the stroke but now don't think so MustLoveBeagles Mar 20 #72

I've been trendng that way too. ananda Mar 20 #74

I remember when bashing the then God Garland would get you in trouble here yaesu Mar 19 #11

Garland isn't a Democrat, though, LuvLoogie Mar 19 #15

LOL, who cares yaesu Mar 20 #28

Right on ABC123Easy Mar 20 #80

Reasonable question. yellow dahlia Mar 19 #12

Huh? The rule about not bashing Democrats is clearly (almost) never enforced. Wiz Imp Mar 19 #17

I specifically asked about Democratic officials bashing us. niyad Mar 19 #22

???? Wiz Imp Mar 20 #59

Exactly. MorbidButterflyTat Mar 20 #30

Never Cirsium Mar 20 #53

Some people see even mild criticism as Bettie Mar 20 #58

jury nullification. mopinko Mar 19 #18

I think there is a Blue_Roses Mar 19 #21

I've been dinged ...even though I am very careful.. Bread and Circuses Mar 19 #23

I am not criticizing the jury system, which has worked remarkably niyad Mar 20 #27

I know. I simply wanted to support the DU management 🌷 Bread and Circuses Mar 20 #29

F Fetterman? SSJVegeta Mar 20 #24

Are there other Dem officials bashing us? Not sure I can handle more. niyad Mar 20 #35

F Fetterman SSJVegeta Mar 20 #62

Good question. LoisB Mar 20 #25

EarlG already adressed this question. He said that the rule is not absolute regarding obvious Democrats not acting in .. marble falls Mar 20 #26

I obviously missed that in the ongoing onslaught of horrors, but I niyad Mar 20 #31

If they are off Democratic Party ideals and the criticism is specifically about issues and not about personal stuff ... marble falls Mar 20 #33

Thank you. I am running out of poppets. niyad Mar 20 #34

I assume this is in regards to Fetterman JMCKUSICK Mar 20 #32

None for me, apparently. Iggo Mar 20 #37

That is one reason I like my poppets! niyad Mar 20 #38

What's a Poppet, lol JMCKUSICK Mar 20 #40

Known in some circles as voodoo dolls. Which reminds me, I need more pins. niyad Mar 20 #42

That's funny, I have the New Orleans Voodoo Tarot Card deck lol JMCKUSICK Mar 20 #55

That is one I do not have in my collection. Will have to check it out. niyad Mar 20 #67

That and the Witches Tarot are the two decks that JMCKUSICK Mar 20 #73

It is always wonderful when one connects so deeply with a deck. I have used niyad Mar 20 #82

... Celerity Mar 20 #57

VERRRRRY NICE!!! niyad Mar 20 #68

They need their feet held to the fire. Blue Full Moon Mar 20 #39

Or possibly other portions of their anatomies! niyad Mar 20 #44

I don't know, y'all, but I think we're working with a pretty nebulous term LearnedHand Mar 20 #41

Some very good points. niyad Mar 20 #45

Wording and context are important. Aussie105 Mar 20 #46

Hard to do when one is disappointed in their entire existence. niyad Mar 20 #47

Voting matters Ialwaysvote Mar 20 #49

All true, but that does not address the question I asked. niyad Mar 20 #50

Yeah, I think it does. Ialwaysvote Mar 20 #54

"But what options are available when a Democratic official is bashing us?" LudwigPastorius Mar 20 #52

The TOS As Written Are Clear. ColoringFool Mar 20 #56

Great question malaise Mar 20 #60

From a completely practical perspective. Prairie_Seagull Mar 20 #63

Good morning. Then poppets it is!!! niyad Mar 20 #69

As others have already indicated Prairie_Seagull Mar 20 #77

One of the things that makes DU great is its jury system run by the members. NNadir Mar 20 #71

I generally have no problem with our jury system, and I have been on many niyad Mar 20 #83

The posters and juries here have a pretty good feel for when rogue officials are NOT with the party Takket Mar 20 #75

Fetterman ABC123Easy Mar 20 #79

Let's look at the rule. Bluetus Mar 20 #81