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Ms. Toad

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108. No. Citizenship isn't required to get a RealID.

Fri Mar 20, 2026, 10:30 AM

Mar 20

It is required to get a passport, except b for a fee individuals who are US Nationals, but not citizens, and that status is printed on the passport

Because non-citizens can get a RealID, and citizenship status is not marked on the document, it proves identity, but not citizenship.

(It requires similar documentation, even more, in some cases, but because they weren't requiring citizenship to get the ID, and it isn't marked on the ID, there is no way to reverse engineer the ID to show citizenship, without requiring the same acquisition process all over again.)

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How many can locate their birth certificate in order to vote? [View all] kentuck Mar 19 OP

Who will be training poll workers how to authenticate birth certificates? Tim S Mar 19 #1

Need the birth certificate to register to vote Kaleva Mar 19 #61

We Have Our BCs ProfessorGAC Mar 19 #2

When all this nonsense started redstatebluegirl Mar 19 #55

My Passport Expired ProfessorGAC Mar 19 #56

Please get her a real id! redstatebluegirl Mar 19 #57

Real ID does not prove citizenship, Ms. Toad Mar 20 #94

And yet, to get a Real ID Bettie Mar 20 #100

No. Citizenship isn't required to get a RealID. Ms. Toad Mar 20 #108

No, it isn't Bettie Mar 20 #109

I was explaining why they can't use RealID for voter registration/reregistration under the Save Act - Ms. Toad Mar 20 #110

The weird part is that the rules vary from state to state Bettie Mar 20 #114

I said that in the first post you responded to. Ms. Toad Mar 20 #117

Those are 'Enhanced ID'. In New York at least, they cost $30 more than Real ID; and both are still being issued lostnfound Mar 20 #118

It Was A Tangential Point ProfessorGAC Mar 20 #106

Only 5 states have a real id that certifies citizenship UpInArms Mar 20 #101

I had to get a recertified one from Ohio last year underpants Mar 19 #3

New York State took 6 months & cost over $70 Tim S Mar 19 #5

Yeah I knew someone who discovered his name was misspelled underpants Mar 19 #17

You got off lucky with that price tonkatoy8888 Mar 19 #35

Yes they will. Funny I haven't heard that discussed much underpants Mar 19 #41

That would be an issue for me. Ms. Toad Mar 20 #95

And those of us women who grew up with the tradition of taking husband's surname are gonna have to fight to vote Attilatheblond Mar 19 #4

And if you married more than once it's even more of a battle. quaint Mar 19 #29

Took first husband's surname because that was the general rule way back then Attilatheblond Mar 19 #58

My first wife kept her family name. Squaredeal Mar 20 #105

I renewed my passport last year. Ritabert Mar 19 #6

I know where my bc is get the red out Mar 19 #7

Would I still have to get a passport to vote? EarthAbides Mar 19 #8

If you have an Enhanced ID with a flag -- not a regular REAL ID with a star -- pnwmom Mar 19 #47

That's what I've told my daughter. bamagal62 Mar 19 #63

I have both. nt doc03 Mar 19 #9

I carry both (or a copy) with me at all times. Even in California. usonian Mar 19 #10

Me too, copies, California, skin. quaint Mar 19 #30

Good luck evading the skin police. And congratulations on hitting the 5000 post milestone. usonian Mar 19 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 19 #11

I have the birth certificate and passport in my lockbox. MineralMan Mar 19 #12

California foothills, a "go bag" is part of life. usonian Mar 19 #34

In 2019, my dad passed away from Alzheimers. His documentation, DL, birth cert, SS card etc were long missing. My sister FSogol Mar 19 #13

My grandfather had three different birth dates on his official documents. hunter Mar 20 #91

... 2naSalit Mar 19 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 19 #15

My birth certificate name doesn't match the name I've used since I was 4 yrs old. pat_k Mar 19 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 19 #18

My sister got her first passport in the name she always used with just an affidavit from my mom. pat_k Mar 19 #26

pat_k..your situation is just like mine. I had to get a family lawyer and all my papers together and let a judge Deuxcents Mar 19 #31

Name change by usage is perfectly legal. pat_k Mar 19 #37

If they're gonna require this, then they should extend the hours or make it simpler. What a hassle Deuxcents Mar 19 #49

I had the same problem and couldn't get a enhanced license ribrepin Mar 19 #71

Interesting. pat_k Mar 19 #85

I worked on getting a name change through the courts for years ribrepin Mar 20 #98

My situation is somewhat similar - I have a birth certificate that bears no resemblance to my current name TBF Mar 19 #87

I have an enhanced drivers license in Michigan that is usable as id. Srkdqltr Mar 19 #19

Anticipating this chicanery my folks got me an official copy... Hugin Mar 19 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 19 #25

aren't you the one who said what's the problem with showing ID? Skittles Mar 19 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 19 #67

Anyone who is not 'entirely too angry' is perhaps not paying enough attention.... Jack Valentino Mar 19 #69

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The same to you! Jack Valentino Mar 19 #74

oh there is ANOTHER option Skittles Mar 19 #76

DAMN straight Skittles Mar 19 #78

and in this context, sounds a little bit like 'mansplaining'.... amirite or Jack Valentino Mar 20 #88

DU is my oasis from repuke garbage Skittles Mar 20 #89

if you are ANYTHING but VERY ANGRY right now Skittles Mar 19 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 19 #77

PASS Skittles Mar 19 #79

WEAK. Jack Valentino Mar 20 #90

probably busy with their "$3 meal" Skittles Mar 20 #92

I have my birth certificate. City Lights Mar 19 #21

I can. ananda Mar 19 #22

I have mine. Faux pas Mar 19 #23

I do SocialDemocrat61 Mar 19 #24

I have a birth certificate and a passport. greatauntoftriplets Mar 19 #27

Had to send away for a certified certificate to get my cachukis Mar 19 #28

Me, because I did membership for DAR last year obamanut2012 Mar 19 #33

I can, and I have a current passport. maxsolomon Mar 19 #36

Write away for the birth certificate now. Mine came in just a couple of weeks, though it cost $40. Scrivener7 Mar 19 #38

I have Rebl2 Mar 19 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Doodley Mar 19 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 19 #45

NOT IN THE NEXT ELECTION Skittles Mar 19 #82

Not black women Keepthesoulalive Mar 20 #96

ACTUALLY, 'married women' according to polls are MUCH more likely to vote Republican, Jack Valentino Mar 19 #73

Newsflash: The birth certificate your mom saved from your original birthday doesn't count. milestogo Mar 19 #42

When markodochartaigh Mar 19 #43

i think i can manage rampartd Mar 19 #44

I was born in Germany while my father was stationed there during the cold war LetMyPeopleVote Mar 19 #46

Nope, neither one Bayard Mar 19 #50

There would be court challenges galore. Elections are state matters. valleyrogue Mar 19 #51

I've had reason to peruse old census records, 1800-say 1950 bucolic_frolic Mar 19 #52

I had my original birth certificate vankuria Mar 19 #53

I have an up-to-date passport Maeve Mar 19 #54

I have my BC due to having to get a REAL ID. Jacson6 Mar 19 #59

Same here. moondust Mar 19 #80

I can. 🙂 nt Raine Mar 19 #60

Mine is in a file in the office Kaleva Mar 19 #62

We have important papers file Tree Lady Mar 19 #64

I took the Girl Scout motto - "Be Prepared" - as my life plan Totally Tunsie Mar 19 #65

I just ordered a new one for one of my children Melon Mar 19 #66

I have a copy of my birth certificate, but not the original--- nor do I have a passport... Jack Valentino Mar 19 #68

Churches Avalon Sparks Mar 19 #72

I have both, but I need to renew my passport karynnj Mar 19 #81

Since Covid I have Roc2020 Mar 19 #83

In anticipation Traildogbob Mar 19 #84

Problem is many only have the hospital issue not official document... Historic NY Mar 19 #86

mine is in the file cabinet right next to this chair yellowdogintexas Mar 20 #93

Thinking about the SAVE act ironman99 Mar 20 #97

Nope, I've only seen it once when my mother took me to get my driver's license Rhiannon12866 Mar 20 #99

The Answer SHOULD BE 100%! ForeGoneLegsBirne Mar 20 #102

To collect Social Security, you will need to prove who you are. Croney Mar 20 #103

I have all of my family's birth certificates Bettie Mar 20 #104

I carry an expired passport with me but does that count? LSparkle Mar 20 #107

My wife and I were both born in 1947 PCB66 Mar 20 #111

My passport and birth certificate are in the same desk on which my PC resides Shrek Mar 20 #112

I do, but that's only because I needed it as part of the dependent verification package for haele Mar 20 #113

I live in the EU, so I need my passport constantly DFW Mar 20 #115

Top drawer of the file cabinet,,,, lastlib Mar 20 #116