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Lucky Luciano

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70. For more advanced courses, a 3 hour exam can't...

Wed Mar 25, 2026, 07:00 PM

Mar 25

…test the material well. So they make take home exams which are far more difficult and comprehensive. I approved of this because it’s true that any 3 hour exam only tests superficial understanding, but AI does mean new methods are needed. Probably has to be the take home plus rigorous interviews on the submission….trying to figure out how the labor of grading this could be addressed. Probably it is only an interview without grading the written part so much to save time. Or AI does the interview LOL. I dunno…still unsatisfying…my field is math…it’s a helluva lot easier to understand a proof given to you than to use your own creativity to solve the problem. So having AI solve the problem kills your own creativity even if you labor to understand the solution AI gives.

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Perfect homework, blank stares: Why colleges are turning to oral exams to combat AI [View all] Coventina Mar 25 OP

Excellent! SheltieLover Mar 25 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #2

How is that any different from grading written assignments? Coventina Mar 25 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #6

I have never encountered such a system in all my years of being a student or professor. n/t Coventina Mar 25 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #11

I'll take your word for it in regards to UC, but I'm pretty confident that's not the norm. Coventina Mar 25 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #15

OK, so that's law school. And only testing, not other forms of assignments. Coventina Mar 25 #16

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Please provide the link that says this applies to all undergrad programs. n/t Coventina Mar 25 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #20

I just did so and according to Google (which you recommended) it only applies to law schools Coventina Mar 25 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #23

So, it is used sporadically and is not mandatory. n/t Coventina Mar 25 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #29

All I can say is that your experience has been nothing like mine, either as a student or professor. Coventina Mar 25 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #37

Well, your assertions about what is "policy" is being disputed here by more posters Coventina Mar 25 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #41

Ummmmm Okay. Coventina Mar 25 #43

You didn't go through all teh campuses because most don't do this, and there aren't 30+ obamanut2012 Mar 25 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #38

Because they are incorrect obamanut2012 Mar 25 #32

Thanks! A more informed voice is much appreciated here. nt Coventina Mar 25 #36

That is not correct about the University of California system. nt PufPuf23 Mar 25 #28

Yup, it is not accurate obamanut2012 Mar 25 #34

Absolutely not true wackadoo wabbit Mar 26 #83

The vast majority of the grade for every university course I taught was anonymous. Ms. Toad Mar 25 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #72

I'm pretty sure my undergrad and MS grades weren't anonymously graded. Ms. Toad Mar 25 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #77

As a professor, that wouldn't have worked with me. Ms. Toad Mar 25 #81

No such thing in the performing or fine arts. progressoid Mar 25 #24

Not one of mine did that -- either as a student ro instructor obamanut2012 Mar 25 #30

My wife has been a college professor for 30 years... Happy Hoosier Mar 25 #44

Seems odd OC375 Mar 25 #13

Any objective research into how large your asserted problem is nationwide? Torchlight Mar 25 #19

I think a better approach would be a written exam, in class, with the questions delivered orally. Trueblue Texan Mar 25 #51

Isn't a "take home exam" just fancy talk for "homework"? OC375 Mar 25 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #64

LOL. To each their own. :) OC375 Mar 25 #71

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For more advanced courses, a 3 hour exam can't... Lucky Luciano Mar 25 #70

Count me incredibly unsurprised... And good on them for doing this... hlthe2b Mar 25 #4

Great idea Mysterian Mar 25 #5

Just have them write essays and solve math problems by writing in a blue book. Jacson6 Mar 25 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 25 #46

never heard of a blue book. can you give a bit more detail? i figure if i google it then i'll get a lot of links about orleans Mar 25 #57

It was a multipage blank paper notebook with a blue cover. Jacson6 Mar 25 #59

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thanks. that helps. nt orleans Mar 25 #62

I may have been among the last to use a blue book fujiyamasan Mar 25 #66

Excellent Idea OC375 Mar 25 #9

This is an effective way to defeat cheating via AI FakeNoose Mar 25 #10

I've given up on trying to teach my students writing. Coventina Mar 25 #14

I completely agree, the remedial work needs to be done before they get to your classes FakeNoose Mar 25 #35

Given the obstacles, it appears the most honest method Torchlight Mar 25 #22

This should have been done years before AI synni Mar 25 #26

I like it... 2naSalit Mar 25 #27

I am an art prof Starry Messenger Mar 25 #40

I contend that testing is pointless. Gore1FL Mar 25 #42

That's the thing. I stopped giving tests years ago. Coventina Mar 25 #45

Sad you have to outwit learners nowadays OC375 Mar 25 #69

I'm confused. Students are accessing their phones during the test? CrispyQ Mar 25 #58

I research everyday for a living in my IT job. Gore1FL Mar 25 #63

So open book is okay, but not Google or AI. Right? -nt CrispyQ Mar 25 #65

I use Google regularly. I have used AI, but prefer Google. Gore1FL Mar 25 #75

That's not what the discussion is about, but okay. -nt CrispyQ Mar 25 #79

It was an answer to your question. If the answer is off-topic, that's on you. nt Gore1FL Mar 25 #80

One on one discussions sound great. But aren't they time-consuming? Jim__ Mar 25 #47

Fortunately, I have fairly small classes. Coventina Mar 25 #48

That sounds great! Jim__ Mar 25 #49

I had to do one of these just to get my Bachelors kairos12 Mar 25 #50

My kid had to write a thesis on a topic related to his major and defend it to graduate from his liberal arts college. Raftergirl Mar 25 #52

just a thought lapfog_1 Mar 25 #53

i dont do well on written tests , so i always asked for oral tests , in fact, AllaN01Bear Mar 25 #54

No Critical Thinking Pucks mom Mar 25 #55

AI has taken a wrecking ball to education: highplainsdem Mar 25 #74

Long overdue. Raven123 Mar 25 #67

I approve this wholeheartedly. Lucky Luciano Mar 25 #68

I refuse to use it gay texan Mar 25 #78

That's always been a major component of science fair judging. hunter Mar 25 #82