I'm not sure the country is going over the cliff, but DU sure as hell has.

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159. Silly....

The President is not a true Defense cutter, he is trying to help stave off sequestration ffs...and the Democrats in congress don't ever try and force him to do things he doesn't want to....

He fiddles around the edges with some weapons systems and trvial cuts, but he is the CIC and has never given me reason to believe that he will lower the deficit with cuts to the military....

Nope he is the one bought in on SS cuts we will get chained CPI on SS and probably worse before all is said and done.

He just squandered an aboslute wonderful opportunity to really soak the rich... He could have allowed the thugs to take us over the cliff assigning all political blame to them.... then he could have had Democrats draft and push a tax cut for those making 200K and below and a tax increase for those making above (pick your defined rich man amount) and increased them to 45 percent or more... He could have then dared Repubs not to support the tax cut and the net would have gotten him a serious chunk out of the deficit and better negotiating position for the debt ceiling i.e., he could simply say that deficit reduction can be accomplished by cutting deductions in the tax code and that combined with the big tax increases would have netted him enough to have his cake and eat it too...

but you dreamers keep talking about cutting defense, won't, can't happen both sides poltiiticans are beholden to the MIC...