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Moonwalk

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4. Americans have always supported Feudalism--really. Because they have a religious belief...
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:33 PM
Jan 2013

that they can become its king rather than its serf. You seem to forget, by the way, that in the 1790's only male property owners could vote. And most of the revolutionary leaders believed that only a gentleman (a rich landowner) should be president--hence, even as they screamed for freedom from kings, the wealthy and powerful in the U.S. supported a system that would keep only American aristocrats (landed gentlemen) in power. In half the U.S. slave ownership was legal up till 1865 (feudalism), and plantation owners lived and acted like aristocrats. In 1860 Prince Edward (who would be King Edward VII) visited the U.S. and both old money and new money society went crazy over him. This started a movement that lasted up through the early 1900's of marrying off rich American daughters to impoverished British aristocracy. Because being rich wasn't enough. The uber-weathy also wanted a title.

Which is all to say, Americans have always had a split personality, an inferiority complex if you like, since the break with Britain. Half the time they've held it as superior that "anyone" can be president, and been leery of those who seemed to aristocratic and snobby (see Mitt Romney). At these times, they've wanted the U.S. to seem very democratic and homey--like Clinton, a down-home boy from Arkansas. Other times, they have wanted a more aristocratic type of president--a mythic king to symbolize the U.S. as being aristocratic in the most mythical way--like Kennedy and Camelot. Handsome, rich, elegant, enlightened, saving the world.

It's this mythic side of the aristocracy that we can't let go of--because we have a religious faith that we can have it. Make it real. After all, American doesn't just promise that anyone can be president, but also that anyone can be rich. And rich = aristocrat. Romantic shows/movies for women are all Cinderella stories, where the poor girl marries the rich bachelor (or, in some instances, literally a prince). And Americans have always been gah-gah over the British royal family, and shows like Downton Abby that perpetuate the myth of Noblesse Oblige--that feudalism can not only work, but be the best system for everyone.

Our mythos, memes and such came from being originally British. And our win over the British was with the help of the French--an aristocracy we didn't object to at all (though Jefferson--a plantation owner--was happy enough to see the revolutionaries cutting off aristocratic heads; ironic that). Like I said, split personality.

Americans support feudalism and always have, simply, because they believe the myth that anyone can become the king (read "The Great Gatsby" by F. Scott Fiztgerald to understand this imbedded psychology better). As they all want to be kings, they refuse to acknowledge that upholding such a system is actually to their detriment and against what democracy is really all about. And as faith in this myth is always of benefit to the wealthy, there is never any reason for those in power to point out to those not in power that is it a myth.

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Also consider this - truedelphi Jan 2013 #1
This, has become a nation of tribes as the citizenry sorts about the tribes trying to find that one RKP5637 Jan 2013 #2
None responded much, but I thought this was an excellent OP!!! RKP5637 Jan 2013 #3
Agree, good replies too. k&r flying rabbit Jan 2013 #5
Americans have always supported Feudalism--really. Because they have a religious belief... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #4
Extremely well said!!! We live in a myth and some call it the "Matrix." n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #6
Even when they realize they will never be rich, some still choose to see themselves that way daleo Jan 2013 #9
I've often wondered if there is linkage between the 'religious faithful' and those RKP5637 Jan 2013 #11
Stockholm Syndrome is a great way to put it! But I wonder if it isn't simpler than that... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #17
Quite true! Thanks! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #18
Agree entirely. It's the trickle down mythos, right? The kindly king will trickle down his.... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #15
Excellent post! And you're right... Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2013 #13
True! We saw it this time around in their "We Built this!" motto. As if every individual can.... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #16
It's Frankenstein monster thinking tacked together from the worst aspects of the Puritan work ethic Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2013 #20
Your sentence: truedelphi Jan 2013 #40
Excellent post deutsey Jan 2013 #30
People are in favor of leasing land in return for armed service? Recursion Jan 2013 #7
For some in our society, it is worse than truedelphi Jan 2013 #23
Deep down, most people still think the rich are actually job creators? reformist2 Jan 2013 #8
Innovation creates jobs jp76 Jan 2013 #35
Push comes to shove Jim Warren Jan 2013 #10
Actually, the "middle class" has historically wanted to do more than maintain the status quo-- Moonwalk Jan 2013 #21
Everyone thinks they will be the baron lording it over the serfs. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #12
Hate Radio and Fox "News" Doctor_J Jan 2013 #14
Along with the Religious Right get the red out Jan 2013 #28
your premise is a fallacy. cali Jan 2013 #19
Wow cali, can you say pessimism? OxQQme Jan 2013 #22
amenable to indicates volition cali Jan 2013 #25
Before the action, there is the dream. truedelphi Jan 2013 #33
Well, the populations of entire nations truedelphi Jan 2013 #24
oh please. How, specifically, did the US see to it that dictatorial cali Jan 2013 #26
The pin holding the whole machine together JReed Jan 2013 #27
+100 nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #38
Because they believe that despite the fact that most of them will live paycheck to paycheck... ck4829 Jan 2013 #29
It pre-dates economy bongbong Jan 2013 #31
Bill of Rights mistake jp76 Jan 2013 #32
That is a decent critique of my "Globalization" effort truedelphi Jan 2013 #34
defeat librechik Jan 2013 #36
However, truedelphi Jan 2013 #37
hope you are right librechik Jan 2013 #39
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