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In reply to the discussion: AI Slop Is Destroying the Internet. These Are the People Fighting to Save It [View all]highplainsdem
(62,318 posts)12. We'll have a situation that authoritarians will love. Confused, lost people will often turn to authoritarian
leaders.
And rightwingers seem to love AI slop.
AI critic Brian Merchant, whom I've sometimes quoted here, recently linked to this essay, written last year:
https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/
AI: The New Aesthetics of Fascism
February 9, 2025
Gareth Watkins
It's embarrassing, destructive, and looks like shit: AI-generated art is the perfect aesthetic form for the far right.
Tommy Robinson tweets an image of soldiers walking into the ocean on D-Day. Britain Firsts co-leader produces imagery of Muslim men laughing at sad white girls on public transport. An AI-generated song combining kitsch schlager pop with crude racial stereotypes makes it into the German top fifty and becomes number three on Spotifys global viral chart. Benjamin Netanyahu conjures a vision of an ethnically-cleansed Gaza connected by bullet train to the equally ephemeral Neom. Keir Starmers Labour Party posts, then is forced to take down, a video of its policies as embodied by anthropomorphic animals. A few days later, they promised to mainline AI into the veins of Britain.
The right loves AI-generated imagery. In a short time, a full half of the political spectrum has collectively fallen for the glossy, disturbing visuals created by generative AI. Despite its proponents having little love, or talent, for any form of artistic expression, right wing visual culture once ranged from memorable election-year posters to terrorwave. Today it is slop, almost totally. Why? To understand it, we must consider the rights hatred of working people, its (more than) mutual embrace of the tech industry and, primarily, its profound rejection of Enlightenment humanism. The last might seem like a stretch, but bear with me.
The first point is the most obvious. AI as embodied by large language models like ChatGPT, and largely diffusion-based image generators like DALL-E and Midjourney promises to make anyone who can write a single-paragraph prompt into a copywriter or graphic designer; jobs generally associated with young, educated, urban, and often left-leaning workers. That even the best AI models are not fit to be used in any professional context is largely irrelevant. The selling point is that their users dont have to pay (and, more importantly, interact with) a person who is felt to be beneath them, but upon whose technical skills theyd be forced to depend. For relatively small groups like Britain First, hiring a full-time graphic designer to keep up with its insatiable lust for images of crying soldiers and leering foreigners would clearly be an unjustifiable expense. But surely world leaders, capable of marshalling vast state resources, could afford at the very least to get someone from Fiverr? Then again, why would they do even that, when they could simply use AI, and thus signal to their base their utter contempt for labour?
For its right wing adherents, the absence of humans is a feature, not a bug, of AI art. Where mechanically-produced art used to draw attention to its artificiality think the mass-produced modernism of the Bauhaus (which the Nazis repressed and the AfD have condemned), or the music of Kraftwerk AI art pretends to realism. It can produce art the way right wingers like it: Thomas Kinkade paintings, soulless Dreamworks 3D cartoons, depthless imagery that yields only the reading that its creator intended. And, vitally, it can do so without the need for artists.
-snip-
February 9, 2025
Gareth Watkins
It's embarrassing, destructive, and looks like shit: AI-generated art is the perfect aesthetic form for the far right.
Tommy Robinson tweets an image of soldiers walking into the ocean on D-Day. Britain Firsts co-leader produces imagery of Muslim men laughing at sad white girls on public transport. An AI-generated song combining kitsch schlager pop with crude racial stereotypes makes it into the German top fifty and becomes number three on Spotifys global viral chart. Benjamin Netanyahu conjures a vision of an ethnically-cleansed Gaza connected by bullet train to the equally ephemeral Neom. Keir Starmers Labour Party posts, then is forced to take down, a video of its policies as embodied by anthropomorphic animals. A few days later, they promised to mainline AI into the veins of Britain.
The right loves AI-generated imagery. In a short time, a full half of the political spectrum has collectively fallen for the glossy, disturbing visuals created by generative AI. Despite its proponents having little love, or talent, for any form of artistic expression, right wing visual culture once ranged from memorable election-year posters to terrorwave. Today it is slop, almost totally. Why? To understand it, we must consider the rights hatred of working people, its (more than) mutual embrace of the tech industry and, primarily, its profound rejection of Enlightenment humanism. The last might seem like a stretch, but bear with me.
The first point is the most obvious. AI as embodied by large language models like ChatGPT, and largely diffusion-based image generators like DALL-E and Midjourney promises to make anyone who can write a single-paragraph prompt into a copywriter or graphic designer; jobs generally associated with young, educated, urban, and often left-leaning workers. That even the best AI models are not fit to be used in any professional context is largely irrelevant. The selling point is that their users dont have to pay (and, more importantly, interact with) a person who is felt to be beneath them, but upon whose technical skills theyd be forced to depend. For relatively small groups like Britain First, hiring a full-time graphic designer to keep up with its insatiable lust for images of crying soldiers and leering foreigners would clearly be an unjustifiable expense. But surely world leaders, capable of marshalling vast state resources, could afford at the very least to get someone from Fiverr? Then again, why would they do even that, when they could simply use AI, and thus signal to their base their utter contempt for labour?
For its right wing adherents, the absence of humans is a feature, not a bug, of AI art. Where mechanically-produced art used to draw attention to its artificiality think the mass-produced modernism of the Bauhaus (which the Nazis repressed and the AfD have condemned), or the music of Kraftwerk AI art pretends to realism. It can produce art the way right wingers like it: Thomas Kinkade paintings, soulless Dreamworks 3D cartoons, depthless imagery that yields only the reading that its creator intended. And, vitally, it can do so without the need for artists.
-snip-
I saw so many RW AI users, starting a few years ago, gleefully predicting AI destroying the careers of artists, writers, actors, musicians and filmmakers - the creatives they hated so much. The creatives who are almost all liberals. Bluesky is as liberal as it is to a large extent because so many liberal creatives went there to get away from X and the artist-hating AI users there.
Link to the Brian Merchant piece that linked to the essay quoted above, and a couple of paragraphs of what Brian wrote:
https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/ais-aesthetics-of-failure
Now, its often argued that AI cannot create anything truly new, that even the most sophisticated LLMs are fundamentally token-prediction systems, and thus the pixels its image-generators rearrange are necessarily an amalgam of shapes and styles all seen before. That AI image generators are intensively derivative, and that Sora was all but exclusively so, is undeniably true. And that I think is the root of its failure. LLMs strive to reproduce reality, or beloved aesthetics of the past, or even generally pleasing imagery, and they almost always fail. This failure is immediately apparent to us, for the same reasons that animate our discomfort with imagery in the uncanny valley in general, as well as some reasons beyond that.
This failure is not limited to or even primarily concerning image quality. As the generators have improved in ironing out past telltales like the extra fingers and such (in prepping for this post I looked back at the original Sora videos and it was shocking to me how bad they were), our queasiness hasnt subsided. AI image and video slop is not just homogenous, and its not just derivative. Slop is a visual embodiment of the modern AI project itself; an in-progress effort to replicate, undermine, and replace human works. Its fundamentally unsettling. (This one reason that, as Gareth Watkins argued, AI is ideal for creating a new aesthetics of fascism.)
This failure is not limited to or even primarily concerning image quality. As the generators have improved in ironing out past telltales like the extra fingers and such (in prepping for this post I looked back at the original Sora videos and it was shocking to me how bad they were), our queasiness hasnt subsided. AI image and video slop is not just homogenous, and its not just derivative. Slop is a visual embodiment of the modern AI project itself; an in-progress effort to replicate, undermine, and replace human works. Its fundamentally unsettling. (This one reason that, as Gareth Watkins argued, AI is ideal for creating a new aesthetics of fascism.)
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AI Slop Is Destroying the Internet. These Are the People Fighting to Save It [View all]
highplainsdem
Mar 31
OP
It's not just AI slop, it's all the disinformation that's become commonplace on the internet.
sop
Mar 31
#2
Some of that - misinformation anyway - is slop because it isn't intentional. Much of the misinformation
highplainsdem
Mar 31
#4
I suspected a few years ago that genAI's effects would be bad, but I had no real idea then just how fast
highplainsdem
Mar 31
#6
You have to really lower your standards to think AI slop is okay. You also have to not give a damn about artists
highplainsdem
Mar 31
#8