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Mustellus

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65. Like too much .. its a show...
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 12:50 PM
21 hrs ago

Cross posted from Daily Kos: about the 'inspiration' of the moon program

Yes, that’s about my growing up time, but I even bought the dream, and became a full-fledged Rocket Scientist. Wrote the book even. Msg me for reading recommendations….

Artemis built a nice 4 person capsule that can withstand very high speed reentry. But there was no money left for a decent ‘service module’ in Apollo lingo. So the Europeans supplied the aft end of their space station logistics vehicle. The part with rocket engines and fuel and such, but not enough of either. The SLS launch rocket, assembled basically out of Shuttle parts (“Lego Rockets”, we call them.. ) was assembled by Boeing. It worked well, in spite of huge cost overruns and infinite delays. Yes, that’s the same Boeing that did the Starliner capsule, and the 737 Max.

Artemis II won’t get very close to the moon. In fact, it can’t. It takes fuel to get down close to the moon, and more still to get back out of the moon’s dinky ‘gravity well’ again. Artemis doesn’t have it.

Apollo was cut short at Apollo 18, when the American public, yea verily, even those with short attention spans, complained that their soap operas and sporting events were being interrupted by space news. But in a sense, it was stopped just in time. Sunspot maximum was approaching, and there wasn’t good radiation protection in the Apollo capsule nor on the lunar surface. Artemis doesn’t have good radiation protection once it leaves the safe bubble of the earth’s magnetic field, either. It will do so tonight, if everything continues to plan.

Of course, we are in the middle of sunspot maximum, so this is a real concern. Once on the lunar trajectory, there is no easy way to abort back to the safety of earth. Even Apollo 13 couldn’t do that.

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There was a story about this on NPR earlier today. cab67 Wednesday #3
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100 percent agree! cab67 Wednesday #7
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I think that is why he chose tonight to give his "speech" mercuryblues Wednesday #39
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I stole it from John Oliver. cab67 15 hrs ago #90
That's A BINGO! NASA Is Lucky Trump Probably Didn't Know, Either! "DEI! STOP! DEI!" ColoringFool Wednesday #35
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"Old Colostomy" will probably send MyOwnPeace 15 hrs ago #91
Seriously. How did DOGE miss this DEI atrocity? travelingthrulife 23 hrs ago #58
I was 8 years old when Neil Armstrong took that Phoenix61 Wednesday #5
Your grandfather was born before the first airplane took flight. cab67 Wednesday #6
My grandmother was born in 1903.... lastlib Wednesday #38
I was five. OldBaldy1701E Wednesday #29
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It was a wild thing. OldBaldy1701E Yesterday #50
I was in junior high school Sequoia 23 hrs ago #60
I was at a friends house airplaneman 19 hrs ago #78
Right? OldBaldy1701E 16 hrs ago #86
I was 11 ... it was "mind: blown" for me LSparkle Yesterday #54
Moon walk blanket! Love it! electric_blue68 20 hrs ago #67
Oh MAN, I remember that! calimary 16 hrs ago #87
It wasn't well promoted LeftInTX Wednesday #8
I didn't hear about it until 30 minutes or so before the launch. Ms. Toad Wednesday #9
You've got a point. cab67 Wednesday #10
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When your future looks promising Keepthesoulalive Wednesday #43
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Not inspiring? cab67 Wednesday #21
So did any of them show any Figarosmom Wednesday #13
They did, in fact. cab67 Wednesday #18
I was amazed at how little coverage was aired by MSM BeneteauBum Wednesday #14
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Same arguments were made during the Apollo era. cab67 Wednesday #23
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I didn't hear about it until this morning Niagara Wednesday #16
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your loss. cab67 Wednesday #24
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I would certainly ignore him. cab67 23 hrs ago #55
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A woman, a person of color and a non American. Buddyzbuddy Wednesday #26
I knew nothing about it until today LNM Wednesday #27
Been there Done that? thought crime Wednesday #28
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This was true for the chat feed on NASA's broadcast yesterday. cab67 23 hrs ago #57
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I respectfully disagree. cab67 23 hrs ago #56
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There was a lot of shit happening during the Apollo missions too ThoughtCriminal 21 hrs ago #64
Like too much .. its a show... Mustellus 21 hrs ago #65
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The US is failing miserably on science. Historic NY 20 hrs ago #69
I knew about it, idk, a few weeks back. Very excited it's happening. electric_blue68 20 hrs ago #70
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first year in college for me. cab67 15 hrs ago #89
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I understand the "so much need" argument. cab67 13 hrs ago #97
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