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Moonwalk

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15. Agree entirely. It's the trickle down mythos, right? The kindly king will trickle down his....
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jan 2013

--wealth, greatness and such on down to his servants. It is a kind of magical thinking central to us humans and not exclusive to the U.S. (read Remains of the Day for a brilliant examination of this sort of psychology), which is why democracy has to keep fighting against it. It's like when fans cheer on star athletes and teams, vicariously winning through them. The downside of this, of course, is that such magical thinking requires that we look the other way when the one we serve fails or falls down or does wrong (see: "The Emperor's New Clothes&quot . We have to pretend they're innocent no matter how evident their guilt, otherwise we not only lose that vicarious hero we were living through, but, vicariously fall with them. So we end up supporting systems even if it is demonstrated that they don't work (like trickle down economics).

True democracy is a hard thing. It is counter-intuitive to how humans want to think because we, first, have to decide who will represent us rather than letting the strongest (meanest, biggest, etc.) tell us that who will represent us. Second, we have to elect people to represent us on more than our usual, simple inclinations--not just because they're elegant, handsome, rich, successful and therefore, we think, must be worthy. We have to actually listen to them and see if they have good ideas and know how to do the job. We have to be employers, not employees--they work for us, not vice versa. Last, we have to accept that once they do represent us, that they are not magical representatives--we have to trust them as our man/woman in the field making judgement calls we can't, but they aren't infallible, and we can ignore them because they *are* our representative. If they look bad, we look bad (see George W. Bush--the British can disavow any embarrassment by the royal family as reflecting on them because said monarch was forced on them. Not so the U.S.; we picked our president and therefore he reflects on us). We have to keep our hand in when it comes to democracy.

Democracy takes work. A lot of work and energy. No wonder that feudalism is so much more tempting. It's far easier to just assume that there are people "born" to rule and we don't have to bother with elections; that said aristocrats will do all that's needed and right and trickle on down their wealth. If everyone just blindly trusts them and lets them do what they know how to do.

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Also consider this - truedelphi Jan 2013 #1
This, has become a nation of tribes as the citizenry sorts about the tribes trying to find that one RKP5637 Jan 2013 #2
None responded much, but I thought this was an excellent OP!!! RKP5637 Jan 2013 #3
Agree, good replies too. k&r flying rabbit Jan 2013 #5
Americans have always supported Feudalism--really. Because they have a religious belief... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #4
Extremely well said!!! We live in a myth and some call it the "Matrix." n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #6
Even when they realize they will never be rich, some still choose to see themselves that way daleo Jan 2013 #9
I've often wondered if there is linkage between the 'religious faithful' and those RKP5637 Jan 2013 #11
Stockholm Syndrome is a great way to put it! But I wonder if it isn't simpler than that... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #17
Quite true! Thanks! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #18
Agree entirely. It's the trickle down mythos, right? The kindly king will trickle down his.... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #15
Excellent post! And you're right... Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2013 #13
True! We saw it this time around in their "We Built this!" motto. As if every individual can.... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #16
It's Frankenstein monster thinking tacked together from the worst aspects of the Puritan work ethic Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2013 #20
Your sentence: truedelphi Jan 2013 #40
Excellent post deutsey Jan 2013 #30
People are in favor of leasing land in return for armed service? Recursion Jan 2013 #7
For some in our society, it is worse than truedelphi Jan 2013 #23
Deep down, most people still think the rich are actually job creators? reformist2 Jan 2013 #8
Innovation creates jobs jp76 Jan 2013 #35
Push comes to shove Jim Warren Jan 2013 #10
Actually, the "middle class" has historically wanted to do more than maintain the status quo-- Moonwalk Jan 2013 #21
Everyone thinks they will be the baron lording it over the serfs. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #12
Hate Radio and Fox "News" Doctor_J Jan 2013 #14
Along with the Religious Right get the red out Jan 2013 #28
your premise is a fallacy. cali Jan 2013 #19
Wow cali, can you say pessimism? OxQQme Jan 2013 #22
amenable to indicates volition cali Jan 2013 #25
Before the action, there is the dream. truedelphi Jan 2013 #33
Well, the populations of entire nations truedelphi Jan 2013 #24
oh please. How, specifically, did the US see to it that dictatorial cali Jan 2013 #26
The pin holding the whole machine together JReed Jan 2013 #27
+100 nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #38
Because they believe that despite the fact that most of them will live paycheck to paycheck... ck4829 Jan 2013 #29
It pre-dates economy bongbong Jan 2013 #31
Bill of Rights mistake jp76 Jan 2013 #32
That is a decent critique of my "Globalization" effort truedelphi Jan 2013 #34
defeat librechik Jan 2013 #36
However, truedelphi Jan 2013 #37
hope you are right librechik Jan 2013 #39
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